In her recent book, ‘The Whole Woman,’ Ms Greer argued that attempts to outlaw the practice amounted to “an attack on cultural identity,” adding: “One man’s beautification is another man’s mutilation.”

BBC MPs have launched an attack on the feminist writer Germaine Greer for what they say is her defense of female circumcision aka female genital mutilation.
The Commons International Development Select Committee said her comments on female genital mutilation – a practice which occurs in parts of Africa, Asia and the Middle East, (as well as among Muslims in the West) – were both “simplistic and offensive”.

A resolution against female genital mutilation was passed by the World Health Organisation in 1994, and charities including Womankind Worldwide say that the practice contravenes UNICEF’s convention on the rights of the child.
She said that women should have the right to undergo genital mutilation as a form of “self-decoration” and posed the question: “If an Ohio punk has the right to have her genitalia operated on, why has not the Somali woman the same right?”

However, in a report published on Thursday – coincidentally the International Day Against Violence Towards Women – the select committee accused Ms Greer of a “misplaced sense of the sanctity of culture”.
The MPs cited figures from the World Health Organisation which estimated that between 85 and 115 million women worldwide had undergone some form of genital mutilation which doubles their risk of dying in childbirth and can increase by three to four times the chances their children will be stillborn.

The MPs’ report also says that Ms Greer takes “no account of the purposes of female genital mutilation, nor the lack of choice for those young girls on whom it is inflicted.
“Equating the forcible clitoridectomy of an eight-year-old girl with the voluntary body-piercing of an American teenager is absurd. “Culture can no longer be used as an excuse for inaction on securing women’s rights,” the MPs concluded.

Because the operation is often carried out in non-sterile conditions, sometimes using kitchen knives or pieces of glass, there is a risk that the child or woman could die of infections such a septicaemia.
Organizations like Womankind Worldwide works towards abolishing the practice with measures such as providing grants for traditional circumcisors – who make their living from performing the operations – to set up other businesses.
An estimated 130 million young girls have undergone sexual mutilation, mostly in Muslim countries, but now, apparently in Great Britain, Europe, and the USA, too.
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Firstly: this vile Sefardic “New Christian”Jewish woman (who spent her youth sitting in the corridors at Star of the Sea College in Gardenvale, Bayside Melbourne, after the Presentation Nuns had a gutful of her rude loud-mouthed “Jewish” opinions & fighting the good hearted nuns) .
Secondly: this vile Bitch married a drunk Irish poet/builder and couldn’t cope with his “macho” demands.(well, he was a real man!)
Thirdly: Germridden Greer had all of these abortions and was a total slut (putana), sleeping with everyone in the arts world (except the night watchman) .Germs claims she was ‘raped’ back in 1959 (in Melbourne) by Irish & Italian Catholic footballers (Archbishop Mannix’s finest she claimed), when it was SHE who encouraged the footballers to have an orgy with her or gang-bang, which Germaine did to horrify her mother (whom she hated very much).
Fourthly: Germaine Greer slagged off about Steve Irwin (after his tragic death in 2006), who was an excellent role model for young Australian men, but not for Germs, she prefers an abusive, aggressive Muslim type man, which is increasingly the norm now in today’s UK & the EU, infact they should re-name Britain as “North Pakistan” and Spain “Neuva Al Andalus” and the rest of Europe as “Eurabaia”, because the fastest growing religion today in Europe is SUNNI ISLAM and Christianity is dying off fast and the Jews are clearing off to Israel (or America).
Fifthly: there are hear-say gossip stories confirming the Germaine Greer has secretly converted to Sunni Islam (like a good European of 21st C) and wears a “burkah” in private, soon Germaine will “come out”, not as the ugly ‘Dyke’ (La Torqueida) as she always had been, but as a “burkah” covered Sunni Muslim woman, which is now the new fashion among Femi-Nazis now, Islam is the new face of the Femi-Nazi movement in today’s Europe (or what’s left of it).
MB, not sure how you came across this old story but thanks for the additional insight into a truly repugnant woman
we should not condemn everything at the expense of uniformity.maybe Germaine has a point to pass concerning FGM.The fact that a landscape of the earths population damn the practice doesn’t mean they all understand its full beauty or stain,its just ‘going by the winds’.Forgive me for this,I couldn’t have wished my sister to undergo the whole indign but as I say “each community and society have their own interpretation and apprehending of beauty”.If I would rise up against FGM,I will fight it to the last and bitter breath of mine… but who has given me the right to kill other people’s pride? I should think of educating them on the right methods…but this is against the norm since majority denounce it..no..they should know how to accept the reality if this agony is to be eradicated……
YO,
Crap!
If Germain Greer advocates FGM as a right why doesn’t she lead by example by cutting out her own “bean” ?? I am sure she doesnt need it. Why doesnt she wear a headbag too and become a sex slave/possession . one great step for feminism if she marries a certain saudi prince as well.
She just needs her obligatory daily Muslim beating to get her blood moving in the morning.
Almost four years later I’m responding to you. I’ve often had that thought about men. All those “converts:” Have they been circumcised? Somehow I doubt it.
As i watched this video it is all about the parents getting the respect of their peers. Also how much money or camels they can get for the unfortunate girls. What about the rights of the children . They are born with what they need , no one has the right to brutalise or deform them. These so called men saying they would not marry a girl who is open. Would these men get a circicisim themselves of course they would not. The girl interviewed said by 16 she would have had 4 children by her age which is 20. She is lucky she is not married as she is a healthy women, not a mother to children when she would have only been a child herself. These women need education as to tell a child that she was getting her hair done to get them to the place they wanted is admitting that this is wrong.
Men use this as a form of control over women ,they deprive women of the joys of sex and make them suffer , it is children this depravity is practiced on and they have no say ,their mothers who hated having it done to them are the ones that have it done to their little girls ,by these old hags with rusty razor blades ,not even hygiene or pain killers are used ,if the women stood up and said ,no more it would stop ,it’s about time the women of islam grew some backbone and turn on these poor excuses for men.
So the Feminazi is saying and I quote, “One man’s beautification is another man’s mutilation.” Well what the hell has that got to do with butchering little girls? Yes if they want to cut their dicks off, by all means go ahead. This wrinkled old hag is so desperate for a headline she actually said this? dementia?
I, too, am opposed to abortion. I spent a total of about a year in jails and prisons for participating in peaceful sit-ins and lock-ins of abortion mills. Many others have been persecuted far more than I, had their property stolen by courts and sheriffs, their children murdered, and one man was murdered by order of the corrupt pro-abortion then-governor of Florida, Jeb Bush.
What do you propose to correct the situation, to get the government to uphold the law instead of opposing the law?
They know what they are doing. US Supreme Court justice Harry Blackmun, author of the infamous Roe v. Wade decree, wrote:
“When Texas urges that a fetus is entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection as a person, it faces a dilemma. Neither in Texas nor in any other State are all abortions prohibited. Despite broad proscription, an exception always exists. The exception contained [410 U.S. 113, 158] in Art. 1196, for an abortion procured or attempted by medical advice for the purpose of saving the life of the mother, is typical. But if the fetus is a person who is not to be deprived of life without due process of law, and if the mother’s condition is the sole determinant, does not the Texas exception appear to be out of line with the Amendment’s command?
“There are other inconsistencies between Fourteenth Amendment status and the typical abortion statute. It has already been pointed out, n. 49, supra, that in Texas the woman is not a principal or an accomplice with respect to an abortion upon her. If the fetus is a person, why is the woman not a principal or an accomplice? Further, the penalty for criminal abortion specified by Art. 1195 is significantly less than the maximum penalty for murder prescribed by Art. 1257 of the Texas Penal Code. If the fetus is a person, may the penalties be different?”
“Person” = “human being” in any law or common dictionary.
NOTE: Abortion is never a treatment for danger to the life of the mother. In some cases, such as uterine cancer, the life of the baby is unsaveable as an unavoidable consequence of the treatment, but abortion is not the treatment.
In rape, the mother is a victim. The child is a consequence. If the mother has her baby killed, she is then a murderess, a criminal victimizer of the fruit of her womb.
Commonly invoked is deformity in children of incestuous intercourse as an excuse for murdering the child. Deformities and disorders of children of incest are only slightly less rare than of nonincestuous intercourse. How is it just to kill children for being less than perfect, anyway?
Citizenship, often invoked in the tradition of Dred Scott v. Sandford, is irrelevant. Noncitizens sue and are sued in the courts of the United States every day. Robbers, rapists and murderers of foreign citizens are prosecuted for their crimes. Unborn children of citizens and noncitizens are the only human beings excluded from the protection of the law.
Such jerks are in amount in every sphere
I find most of the comments here to be rather offensive and miss the point entirely. I understand that such practices are upsetting to the majority of those raised with Western cultural background, but this sort of attitude is condescending and imperialist. If anybody would like an accurate ethnography please read the article by Melissa Parker, Rethinking Female Circumcision, it is rather eye opening to anyone who wishes to leave their ethnocentric armchairs.
Bea, is there a gun to your head forcing you to read this blog?
Bea, can you please explain how FMG is of any benefit? How about you explain the benefits? I am very intrigued as a woman in tact to understand your beliefs. Are you standing proud of FMG? Do you practice this yourself? Do you encourage this?
Personally, if you believe there is any benefit to FMG then it is you that has been grossly misinformed. You are an ignorant brainwashed idiot. And it is you that needs the education, not the author of the website.
Bonnie, if only there was a gun at the twits head!! We cannot justify these oxygen thiefs living in our society.
Yeah, I know what you mean, BCF.
Bea,
The most offensive people are those that claim they are offended by others. They use the word ‘offensive’ to bully others into submission. The favourite childish practice of Muslims is to scream, “I am offended.”
Everything an unbeliever says and does is offensive to Muslims. That is why idiot Muslims fight to enforce ‘Jihad’ as instructed in the Koran by Paedophile Muhammad a madman, void of ‘Emotional Intelligence.’
You are an inferior thinking absolute idiot. Your stupid comments indicates that you are not worth anything as a human being.
I am not offended by your backward low life comments; I am just disgusted that your kind of idiocy actually exists.
The practice of FGM is evil. And any person that thinks that FGM is okay is evil and is an enemy of God, decency, children, humanity and the ‘Free World.’
Bea is a true American liberal. They stopped thinking long ago, but are convinced of their moral and intellectual superiority (narcissism anyone?). Really, we can’t stand them much longer. Perhaps we could ship them off to Islamabad or Raqqa…
Well, American liberals have all decided to accommodate the enslavement of women and are incensed at anyone who dares to object to it. From one perspective, they are like a comedy show. From another, they have become culturally dangerous. By all means, let her try it out for herself before pontificating about it further…
The Greer slut barbarian has always been a grub . What is more than a grub ? Germ-main Queer , that is what .
What a slag . a turd in a dreess . Just as well she has a dress , imagine her/it naked . HEY , lock up abb-dulls with her . That is better than Gitmo !!!!!!
This is what multiculturalism does for you. Because of regard for the cultural differences of minority groups it does not afford the same rights and protection to other human beings who are being violated. Mostly these are the most vulnerable people namely women and children. Whatever happened to the “ballsy” G Greer of 30 years ago I ask myself? Maybe she’s lived in her intellectual palace for so long she’s lost her heart, her passion and her sense of justice. More importantly her sense of humanity not to challenge such vile practices.
In fact where are all the women libbers ? You don’t seem to hear from them any more? At least Germaine has got something to say even though I don’t agree with her capitulation as it appears that cultural identity now trumps feminism and women’s rights in her book.
So I have told all the women in my family’ she’s a “turn coat” and not worth listening to. Those who do on her latest campaign supporting FGM watch out she’ll be saying something completely different in a few years time. Vacuous and shallow . Won’t buy her books I would advise others to do the same
Stay passionate and concerned for vulnerable people in society believe me you are not being racist.
Jennifer Beddows,
Very well said…you gave me an excellent fresh point of view.
Thank you Allan. I think its time western culture celebrated its own differences by sticking up for vulnerable people regardless of what culture they happen to have been born into, without some lefty saying its wrong. Ordinary folk need to come out of the closet and start debating this in the open.
Good that people are starting to put in their names?
Jennifer B.
Agreed. The only people that cannot safely publish their full names are those persons working in intelligence, military, security and those that live in very dangerous zones amongst ‘Jihad Muslims.’
But the rest of us, the majority, will lift the credibility of the ‘Freedom Resistance’ by confidently identifying who we are. Politicians will only recognise petitions and demonstrations by real name people. And even then a huge number of real names is required before pollies make the effort to take notice of the voice of the people.
The only way we can change the tide of wrong to stop ‘Islamization of our Nations’ is by ‘People Power’ in the ‘Global Freedom Resistance.’
WOW!!!!
Keep that attitude when those nice Muzzies next door answer the call to jihad. You will be like the Huguenots (French Protestants) when their good Catholic neighbors whom they had lived among peacefully for years received the call to kill the heretics.
Greer I’d like to tear you a new one you ignorant scumbag.
The useful idiot states ` if this issue is opened up then safe methods can be introduced into the practice`; bit like the Jews chewing the foreskins from their baby boys only to pass the herpes virus on and ultimately debilitate and kill the poor child ?
she looks like a man. maybe she’s up for a sex change operation?
This article was published back in 1999.
So it is. Apparently, she hasn’t changed her mind on the issue.
What a fucking moron!!!
maybe she needs to try it and get back to us
Sounds like, perhaps, Germaine Greer is having a dysfunctional mental crises wanting to inflect her anger, ignorance and neurosis upon others in an attempt to sell books! Why was I not surprised to see that she is White to support such outlandish inhumane practices? Perhaps she is a part of those whose aim is to depopulate the world, in particular Afrika! How pathetic! I wonder, has she been mutilated or just racist, dysfunctional and incapable of enjoying the inherent womanly god-given gifts of sensuality and sexuality of being a female? What has happened in her disturbed life to cause her to even suggest acquiescence to such devastating, demoralizing, diabolical practices?
Greer argues, that a ‘woman’ should have the “right” to have this done if they so desire. But, the problem is these are not women, but defenseless children.
As children, they are given no choice or a voice as to what they desire.
Sorry Greer, having FGM done is NOT the same as some bird in Ohio getting a piercing.
Shame on you.
I better not say anything cause I’d start cussing up a storm
Just a typical Western, lesbianish, man-hating feminist.
Germaine The point is to destroy their wretched, insane, never-endingly cruel culture. Please keep your mouth shut and try to find out what their method has done secretly in the United States to United States natural-born citizens. Do not publish again.
Put her (?) where her mouth is.
Several years ago I came across a new article stating the AAP was going to agree to a “ritual nick” to appease those who wanted FGM (guess who). I was outraged!!!Fortunately, at the time, I was corresponding with columnist Diane West. I figured I could write about it – and a few would read my words – or – I could alert Diane West and hope she would place the subject in her nationally syndicated newspaper column. Thankfully, she did. Her article is below. Her speaking out resulted in the AAP rescinding their “nick” approval. That is how close the USA came to having Pediatricians approve FGM. Of course, you can be sure there is still a well-moneyed concerted effort still pushing for the “nick”. Here is her article:
http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1391/Q-Whats-More-Dangerous-than-a-Bomb-in-Times-Square.aspx
I generally have no objection to muslims hacking each other to pieces. But these are little children and some of them will reject this disgusting belief system.
If g greer is supporting this atrocity as a way of reducing the muslum population based on the records of the World Health Organisation which estimated that between 85 and 115 million women worldwide had undergone some form of genital mutilation which doubles their risk of dying in childbirth and can increase by three to four times the chances their children will be stillborn then would anybody change their support for this evil greer to push for female gentitile mutilation taking place in muslum hell hole countries as a way to control muslim birth rates? I hope not. We abort about 20,000 babies in America every week, over one million babies a year. In late term abortions, the babies are pulled apart, feeling great pain, as recorded by sensors and doctor’s reports.The most dangerous place in the world for children is in the womb. I do not support this atrocity any more than I support this evil g greer, the monster. If we did not abort over one million babies a year, we would not need immigration to ensure our population growth. We need over one million immigrants to ensure a positive population growth. We are aborting babies and bringing in muslums and other garbage.
cat, those numbers are low. It is more like 130 million worldwide and that is only the ones that are reported.
Those pictures are very hard to look.
Please remove those photos , you can embedded them inside the story.
There are young children over there.
This is to much pain to look at those photos, and i cant skip it , it’s in your main page.
I hope you can understand my feeling.
Erez
Israel
erez, no, I will not remove them. The more people who see what FGM is the better. As this primarily affects small children, their parents should see it too.
BNI,
I agree we must never remove horrible images and hide the truth. If we did that we would never know about the evil holocaust in Nazi Europe. We cannot ever stop horror by hiding it with censorship.
The truth must always be tabled to force people to wake up and stop evil from repeating itself again and again.
erez, needs to grow up.
Allan, every so often Erez gives me reason to wonder why an Israeli would be so soft on Muslim atrocities.
BNI,
Could he be a hider in the house? Not revealing his true reality.
Who?
BNI,
Sorry, I should have said Erez in response to your earlier comment about him being too soft for an Israeli. I don’t trust softness… it’s a sign of weakness and potential betrayal.
Allan, I have once before and he denied it.
Erez, BNI is doing the right thing. She is a very compassionate person who does not enjoy these photos any more than you.
Bonni understands the importance of SHOCK VALUE. In the past I have financially supported pro-life organizations who have not really been successful because they are too “civilized”. I have found a new pro-life organization to support, The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform http://www.abortionno.org/ If you go there and check out their graphic video of an abortion in progress you will see that BNI’s imbedded photos are quite tame.
I quit, for the most part, supporting pro-life organizations in favor of supporting organizations working to end domestic and sexual violence against women because that battle is not politically divided. Now I am only going to use my allocated resources for pro-life donations to an organization that uses shock value, like I support BNI from among many counter-jihad groups.
erez, you typify the entire problem of the West wanting to bury its head in the sand and NOT FEEL, not deal with the problem, sweep it under the rug, pretend it doesn’t exist, pretent it’s not as barbaric as it is. If we/you can avoid feeling the reality of this, then we can conceptualize it, pigeon hole it and get on with our lives with little pain. Are you a Muslim or a Jew? Are you a Muslim trying to protect Islam? Either way, until you feel it in your bones, you are actually useless as an anti-Islamist. Once you feel it, your mind is always clear.
PH, Erez is an Israeli Jew.
I hope she has her Australian citizenship revoked!
Support for FGM is so morally corrupt!
Aussie.
Where is that absolute-Untermensch prostitute originally from???
Otherwise, I completely agree that she then should have HER genitals mutilated the same way she so blithely in her crypto-Communism advocates – and made to live with it for the rest of her life, which ideally she would have to spend in North Korea, NEVER to be allowed back into the West!!!!!
I do not of any communist or former communist nation where this obscenity is practiced or was legal. Only muslim and some African nations.
“Lord Kabigon:”
Please don’t forget that the Communists have allied themselves with the Moslems in their COMMON goal of exterminating our Western, Judæo-Christian civilisation!!! It’s because of this “alliance” that the Commies and crypto-Commies like Germaine Greer are endorsing Moslem customs and practises which they normally wouldn’t touch with a 10′-pole!!!…
ADHD,
Please enlighten me; I am curious where you get your sources of insight about Communism.
Since the breakdown of the Soviet Union, Communism in Russia whilst still existent is a diluted form. Major violent conflicts thrive in Russia between Communists and Muslims – they are not friends.
China is a different form of Communism to that which existed in Russia. China is leaning towards Capitalism though still retaining ‘Totalitarian Control over the people. China rejects Islam.
In Western Nations, Communists are a small number limited breed and at this point of time pose no real threat anymore.
The ‘Left’ Socialists a weaker form of Marxism which as you know over a hundred years ago, created the extreme ‘Communists Mentality’ in Russia, are now far more dangerous than ‘Communism.’
It is the left politics, Socialists/Marxists that are in bed with Islam. They have the naïve radical idea that they are compatible with a Moderate Islam. But as we all know there is no such thing as a ‘Moderate Islam’ and consequently there is no such thing as 2 Islam’s. Bottom line- all of Islam is ‘Radical’ as instructed in the Qur’an.
Communism doesn’t worry me anymore- it is in a state of decay because the economics of Communism failed.
What does worry me head on is all other forms of ‘Totalitarianism’ that threaten the survival of our Liberty.
The Dangerous Groups are…
1. ‘Anti-Freedom Totalitarian Apartheid Islam.’
2. Left Socialist/Marxists that want to make friends with Islam and want to enforce ‘Blasphemy Laws’ and ‘Political Correctness Laws’ to eliminate ‘Freedom of Speech’ and ‘Freedom of Choice.’
I consider the Socialist/Marxists to be more dangerous because they are fighting to block us from stopping the advance of Islam. To defeat Islam we must smash the left Marxists.
3. Monopolies so heavily focused on ‘Greed’ that they will go to bed with the ‘Devil’ to make money. They don’t care whom they trade with and will trade with Islam if it serves their need for greed.
4. Religious Fundamentalism of any kind- fortunately a limited power block that upon entering politics will strive to impose their religious viewpoints through legislation upon the people.
Even though Democracy is focused on separation of Church and State there shall always be extremist religious people that try to stamp the Laws of the State with religious extreme fervour. These people inclined towards ‘Religious Totalitarianism’ must also be watched and stopped when they go too far in extreme to the right.
Moderation in all things is the correct balance for a stable Democracy that values ‘Liberty.’
Mr. Ivarsson:
You may not be worried about Communism – you should be, especially given that it’s not necessarily being favoured economically but CULTURALLY – which is every bit as BAD!!!!
You may wish to start by looking up the “Frankfurt School” (which was first started at the University of Frankfurt-am-Main in Germany in the 1920s) – it aimed to apply Marxism (which is considered “scientific” by its proponents) to fields other than economics. It was people like Mancuse, Gramsci and other such who worked upon this method of taking over the world (especially via academe).
Then, if you remember that MANY of today’s Communists call themselves other things and pretend even to be “centrists” (among the things they’ve corrupted are words like “progressives”, “liberals”, “centrists”). However, they at heart STILL remain Marxists and espouse it in disguise. [One such politician who for a while was an open Communist and afterwards a secret one was Pierre Elliott Trudeau; and his son Justin is a clone of his father, except perhaps more inept.]
At heart, ANYBODY who favours Marxism is in danger of becoming an outright Communist – and who should automatically be considered as a subversive!!!! [You can be sure that if any of those people come to power in the West, they’ll then set about “building Communism” sooner or later economically likewise…] And as you pointed out yourself, it’s the Marxists/Socialists that ARE in bed with the Moslems – because they ALL, just like the Communists, HATE our Judæo-Christian, Western civilisation!!!!
Sorry if this doesn’t answer you in full…
ADHD,
Thank you for your insight. I am not worried about Communism as a Political force because as I indicated above the ‘Political Structure of National Communism’ is now in a state of decay… the failing economic foundations of Communism has forced it into a state of decline.
I am concerned about Marxism it has changed its face and has wandered away from ‘Communist Hard Core Mentality’ to becoming a far more insidious not as obvious force; and I mean by not as obvious to those people that are not following political events around the world, i.e. the apathetic majority that are not opposing ‘Anti-Freedom Totalitarian Apartheid Islam.’
The key ‘Anti-Freedom weapon of Marxism’s new face is ‘Political Correctness’ conceived in the 1920’s in Europe. PC is designed to destroy ‘Freedom of Speech’ and create a controlled ‘Totalitarian Force of Economics’ which allows Capitalism to exist but with defined limitations to ensure economic survival. Communism denied the right of Capitalism to exist which is why it failed in Russia; founded upon the idiot ideas in Karl Marx’s ‘Communist Manifesto.’
Of course there will always be rabble Communists floating around in much the same way as Neo-Nazis exits but their days of power are over. These groups are vain has-beens with no strength anymore to be a changing force. They simply need to be jumped on when they start flapping their wings. And criminal laws have kept these groups in check.
But criminal law is not keeping PC Marxists in check, they are fighting to change laws to destroy ‘Freedom of Speech’ and that makes this new face of Marxism much more dangerous now than the old ‘Political System’ of Communism.
The name tag ‘Communism’ is in a state of decline, but the new face of the name tag ‘PC Marxism’ is in a rapid state of rise and that is a clear and present danger that does worry me and is my most deepest concern.
Marxist to gain their wicked way have naively gone to bed with Islam and that makes their treachery a very serious survival issue for the ‘Free World.’
If you were familiar with the Babylonian Talmud (the great legal cyclopedia of Pharisaic Judaism – Orthodox and Conservative Judaism) you might drop the “Judeo-.”
I also note your anti-religious bias now, Mr. Ivarsson:
Please remember, we Christians have moved FAR AWAY from the idea of any sort of religious totalitarianism. We’ve learned our lessons from unfortunate incidents like when Catholic Crusaders disdained and fought against Byzantine Orthodox – which helped the Moslems “divide and conquer”; from the Reformation, the Thirty-Years’ War of 1618-1648 and MANY other such evil incidents.
To boot, please don’t forget the basis upon which Christianity is founded: look at the New Testament (if you don’t know your Bible), its emphasis upon Christian LOVE for everybody, where nobody is meant to be killed – and where we are supposed to “love our neighbours as ourselves.” [What happened after Constantine’s “conversion” does not mean that Christianity is corrupt ‘per se’.]
ADHD,
It is not appropriate for us to enter a ‘Religious’ discussion on this site. So I will strive to keep my remarks brief… I support every Religion that stands up fighting against Islam, Marxism and every other form of ‘Totalitarianism.’ That obviously includes, Christians, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus and even non-religious people like Atheists.
I have a very good knowledge about Christianity and the Bible and was raised as a Christian and for good reasons walked away from Christianity at the age of 27 years when I was given 3 hours to live after an accident. My wife was a Christian Sunday School teacher and she also walked away from Christianity before we both met in our near 40th year.
As for being bias, every person that has a ‘Belief System’ of any kind is bias. I am bias, you are bias and so is every person bias that has courage of opinion. That bias exists… is a natural fact of life.
As for Christian Totalitarianism being non-existent that is not true.
In Grafton a Christian town in NSW I was attacked by over 30 Christians between 2005 to 2010 being accused of ‘Blasphemy.’ Those unjust attacks were ‘Totalitarian Attacks.’ And I might add not one of those Christians wanted to learn about Islam or read the Qur’an. Apathy about Islam is very high amongst many Christians.
It is ‘Blasphemy Law’ which is anti-freedom of speech law, which is keeping Islam strong. Ban ‘Blasphemy Law’ and within 3 generations Islam will start to decay.
To ban ‘Blasphemy Law’ Christians and Jews must stop making allegations of ‘Apostasy, Heresy, and Blasphemy’ towards each other and towards all unbelievers that reject their beliefs.
As yet I have not seen Christians and Jews unite to ban ‘Blasphemy Laws.’
To take down Islam ‘Blasphemy Laws’ must be banned around the world in every Nation including Islamic Nations.
The question is now…”When will Jews and Christians have the courage to unite and demand the International Abolition of Blasphemy Laws?”
Mr. Ivarsson:
I’m deeply surprised and shocked that 30 “Christians” ATTACKED YOU physically in Australia!!!! While I can understand disagreeing over matters of faith, doctrine, liturgy, &c., I still would NEVER, EVER think in terms of physically attacking somebody unless I were attacked first and forced to defend myself!!!! I could see myself keeping my distance from somebody with whom I really disagree, but actual fighting?? NO WAY unless they try to harm me…
You might not have noticed it, but MANY “mainstream-Christian” churches have had Marxism sneak in via perverted education at the seminaries. [Please don’t forget that it’s academe that was the first to be so diseased and which is the worst-off anyway…] That’s when the idea of the Christian God being the Father Omnipotent with the Son and the Holy Ghost has been and is being attacked on all sorts of grounds (in the name of gender-equality, “inclusivity”, “diversity” and all that other NONSENSE!!!), with “social justice” and other such shibboleths being stressed instead (and little or no mention of who God TRULY IS!!!). Thus you get corrupted clergymen (and clergywomen, these being of higher proportion in their gender in such beliefs than men) preaching a very diluted kind of quasi-pagan “Unitarian-Universalism” mumbo-jumbo that leaves the hearers spiritually utterly-malnourished, not even knowing what it truly means to be a Christian!!! That’s when you get hymns, orders of service and prayers being rewritten into being “inclusive” which in actual fact DENY God’s Basic Nature and what He Revealed about Himself in the Bible (which those wretches carefully pry apart saying such things as “that’s St. Paul, not Jesus”!).
ALL mainstream Protestantism (Anglican, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian) plus a huge chunk of Catholicism – even some of the Orthodox – has so been infected and, coupled with the overall lack of faith (which this kind of FALSE doctrine is strongly responsible for!!!!), pushes people to either stop coming to church (as it did me to a fair extent, though I’ll NEVER renounce my beliefs) or change denominations (and the Pentecostals are so fractious in that regard so as to split over almost anything, thus giving another bad example. What’s the result? Declining church attendance, with many churches closing and their buildings being sold or destroyed… [Alas, not a few churches have even ended up as mosques, O WEH!!!!…]
You’ll notice in this way that this issue affects me most DEEPLY – it plus the corresponding attempts at dumbing down music, liturgy, art, &c. are the two grounds upon which my church attendance has plummeted to zero; especially because, due to straitened circumstances, I can’t drive long distances to find a place that will have something of both good music and good theology. It also killed my former career as a church musician (organist and choirmaster).
You’ll now have also realised that I equate Marxism with Communism. Let’s face it: Marxism, by dint of its totalitarian, pseudo-“scientific” nature, naturally gravitates to outright Communism – that’s sooner or later how any totalitarian system works, where everything gets dictated. [I’ve little doubt that sooner or later the Chinese Commies could try another crackdown (just like Stáljin did after Ljéñin died not long after introducing his “New Economic Policy”.] At least we know that in this regard we’re pretty well on the same page as long as we’re not total precisians…]
There you have it. I make no apologies for who I am: a typical Trinitarian Christian of the type who likely would have been at home that way 100 years ago. I’ll pray for you and that you’ll one day truly come to know who Jesus Christ Was, Is and ALWAYS Will be – but it has to be between Him and you!!! It’s not mine to convert anybody other than myself. [Still, one Christian preacher who I’ll dare recommend both due to theological orthodoxy, example and knowledge of Islam vs. Christianity is Walid Shoebat. You would do well to check out his sermons and seminars…]
There’s no question on the other hand that – while knowing and understanding the differences between those of us in different denominations – we absolutely MUST unite in the face of the common mortal enemy, Islam!!!!
Thank you so very much for your patience…
ADHD,
My apology, I should have inserted the word ‘Verbal.’ I didn’t say the Christians attacked me physically; they attacked me verbally with a flow of constant abuse. We all attack Islam on this site but the attacks are by written speech, not physical. I simply tabled this bad experience to let you know that Christian Totalitarianism still exists and left unchecked could rise to dangerous levels of bad behaviour as it did in the ‘Dark Ages.’
I should add though that the Baptist were the only ones kind to me and were regular customers in my educational book shop, including Pastor, wife, mother and children. And I am ex- High Church of England. But the rest of the Christians in the town were not very nice in attitude.
It is imperative that all ‘Abrahamic Belief Systems’ do ban ‘Blasphemy Law’ and do ban the allegation use of the words, ‘Apostasy, Blasphemy & Heresy.’
If ‘Blasphemy Laws’ are not ‘Internationally Banned’ in every Nation, I can guarantee that Islam will eventually rule the world until China rises up and wipes them out.
The West needs to take this serious and fight for the abolition of ‘Blasphemy Laws’ or they can say goodbye to their survival by their refusal to ban the use of ‘Blasphemy Laws.’ Even ‘Sharia Law’ will start to disintegrate when it does not have the backing of ‘Blasphemy Laws.’
ADHD, I understand your beliefs and you have a right to your beliefs and I will defend to the death your right to believe what you believe because your beliefs are founded on the principle of not wanting to hurt any other person or rule by Dictatorship. Sadly, not every Christian person has the same anti-totalitarian conviction.
We agree to disagree standing united against ‘Anti-Freedom Totalitarian Apartheid Bully Islam.’
May Peace Be With You Always,
Allan
Dried up old skank wants others to be as miserable as her
Notwithstanding being decently covered and modestly dressed for the occasion (Christian, not islamic context), I am convinced that many physically less attractive/desirable women who are critical of thongs, shorts, and miniskirts worn by young attractive women/girls are motivated by sheer jealousy.
Yep! BUT, I don’t hear her volunteering to get in line to be cut, as she advocates for the female children of those “other cultures”, saying that sick demented s— is “normal”!
Greer should put her money where her mouth is and offer herself up for FGM with no anaesthetic and a razor blade and experience life with only a tiny hole to pass urine. That would teach her the most painful lesson. She’s too old to have children not like these FGM children who suffer great pain, even death, during childbirth as if that isn’t already painful enough. Wicked is not strong enough a word to describe this Detestable creature who calls herself a woman and feminist to boot.
Pilgrimgirl, You have spoken well but excluded one important, possibly the most important, component of FGM that most everyone is reluctant to mention. Removal of a girl/woman’s clitoris destroys most of her capacity to enjoy sexual pleasure, permanently !! 🙁
Not only within the context of God ordained heterosexual marriage, women have been mercifully provided a means, like men, to relieve their pent up sexual desires while waiting for marriage.
Removing a girl’s clitoris is so barbaric and UNNATURAL! Few things stir up such fierce anger in me than FGM. I am surprised that multitudes of women have not taken to the streets globally in protest of this satanic evil.
Furthermore, when a man is penetrating a woman’s vagina, selfishly providing great pleasure for himself, while his wife is denied the means to be aroused and lubricated, she is the victim of the most horrible type of RAPE imaginable !!
Could someone please grab her, throw her down, pull down her underwear and slice off her clit without any sterilization or anesthesia? I’m sure she’d find that just nice and normal, and she can tell us all about how wonderful it is.
A M.
Hell, let’s use a hatchet! If we’re not TOO heavy handed, we won’t break her pubis bone!
Anyway, this old sow probably hasn’t used that damned thing in 50 years, so she’ll never miss it!
I am simply amazed at the absolute, sheer and utter stupidity of these “women”!
Another one of Satan’s whores. She needs to be stoned by the “culture” she thinks is so wonderful. Evil!
Ayaan Hirsi Ali ( the Somali born ex- Dutch MP, now a US citizen) describes this barbaric practice from personal experience. She is particularly critical of genital mutilation and a campaigner against Islam. She is a relevant, modern day feminist, unlike Germ Gruesome. Both received University educations with Gruesome using hers to join the elites and lecture us eternally with her nonsense. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a truely remarkable woman who uses her education to help shape debate and advance the world of ideas. Pity Australia couldn’t have sent Gruesome to Somali for a dose of reality.
NMC. she is in a video in one of the links, the first one I think.
BNI, thanks for the hint -confirms again my admiration for this woman.
I’m not crazy about circumcision …. but, cutting off the clitoris …. is the equivalent …. of cutting off the glans (head) of the penis …. who would want that ? Monedas 1929 This ain’t so funny !
Circumcision and FGM are apples and oranges. Nothing essential is removed with circumcision. I remember when I was an Army medic running across entries in medical records of soldiers receiving adult circumcisions to prevent fungal infections in jungle areas.
I’m glad to hear the Muslim community leader speak rationally urging the members to abandon this practice as health hazard for women. On the other hand, Germaine Greer’s comment if true, is so shockingly callous.
Someone NEEDS To Tell This 60’s Fossil She Hasn’t Been Relevant Since 1969.
Even Then Only To Feminists Spewing Man-Hating Cunt Cant.
Time To STOP Playing “The Emperor’s New Clothes” With These 1960’s Leftist Fossils, and Recognize Them As The Collaborators They Are In Islam’s Declared War on Civilization.
Shocking that Greer would be so out of touch.
I don’t care if they cut themselves to shreds, but NOT children and babies. The adult women can do it all they want…just like our idiots who pierce themselves in weird places…fine, but leave the children alone.
I cannot imagine the pain these little babies must suffer and the infections they must get. I would personally like to get my hands on this sick woman’s neck. I don’t even know who she is, but I will remember her name and speak out against her every chance I get.
This barbaric stone age practice should be abolished from the face of the earth.
I think circumcision and FGM should be banned.
Why should a baby or a child in his young age suffer this mutilation is beyond me. It is completely against human rights.
When he is of a mature age, say 18 or whatever each country has, then he should be able to make his own decision whether to undergo it, not before.
In the Philippines circumcision is a passing of age rite usually taken on by a group of teenage boys together. Philippine women regard an uncircumcised man as filthy and cowardly.
At this site you can find about the DVD movie “Desert Flower” produced by National Geographic. http://movies.nationalgeographic.com/movies/desert-flower/
The autobiography is about international fashion model Waris Dirie. Waris was a Somalian victim of FGM as a child who later became an ambassador to the UN fighting against FGM.
This is an excellent film.
Involuntary FGM must be one of the most heinous things that be done to a female. It is absolutely evil and disgusting.
I’ve heard of this professional paid bigot. I bet a saudi arselifter is behind her bankrolling her. These so-called strong independant woman all have one thing in common. There’s a man in the background bankrolling them. So much for being strong and indepent!
In that feminist hell- hole we otherwise know as sweden creatures like germaine greer look the other way when other women get gang raped! little boys,little girls and even men. but these twisted creatures don’t care. they’re just cannon fodder. something to step upon for money and power. these feminists are like the artillary barrage to weaken the defenders before the main ground assualt by the foot solders. e.g. illagal muslim immgrents. this deranged creatuer is like hitler and hinreich himmler into one. hitler was prepared to destroy germany and did and many germans were killed and now histroy is repeating. i hope this wicked women comes to a sticky ending one day.
I know let’s cut her twit off with a razor blade without anesthesia! How truly beautiful! This woman cursed Christianity but beatifies Muslim misogyny what an Fng fraud his ole ho is!
Absolutely appalling ! I could not bellieve what I was reading ! There is no justification whatsoever for FGM. If men are so disgusted by females they can stay away from them.
You can be sure that if artificial-womb technology were developed enough – and/or they discovered and developed an “elixir of eternal life” – these DEVILS would entirely do away with women, period!!!! They anyway think of females as “necessary evil”…
It’s hatred of white males and the glorification of brown males. Greer espouses reverse racism.
It’s CULTURE when a brown male beats and mutilates his wife or daughter, but a CRIME if a white male does it.
Germ Gruesome hates ALL white males and feels herself superior to all white females. As with most multi-culti admirers she believes that all “cultures” have equivalency (how can a hand outlined on a rock wall be equivalent to a Dutch Master?) EXCEPT for western civilisation. Elites like her feel superior to everyone else, so they intentionally minimise the value of their own culture in case the look as proud of themselves as the feel.
She is not guilty of “reverse” rascism however simply rascism. “Reverse rascism” implies rascism that flows only in one direction – the implication being that only white people are rascist. This hideous creature hates everyone, carefully constructing her venom to imply she is benevolent and inclusive. She’s just a bitch.
EXACTLY! Left-Wingers are very anti-white! You notice how she says it’s an attack on cultural identity. Well I bet if it was whites she wouldn’t give a shit.
Here in America if a white murders a black or Latino the left-wing media makes it into a big national issue but if a black or Latino murders a white they are silent on it. They hate whites. Here in America the left-wing is destroying America’s white cultural identity.
I bet she needs VAGINAL REJUVENATION inner and outer
The women has always been a fruit loop, sorry to say I’m glad the women is in England and not living in Oz anymore.
HUH !!! You have been named to do this to Germ-main .
heee hee haaa lucky you .
Oh and no mask !!!!!!
It is far way beyond me how anyone can take any notice of this grub , this female Australian grub (what an insult to Australia for breeding such a grub) , she/it is a scumbag . What a gagage tip .
Maybe chuck her down a volcano as a Virgin Sacrifice , that would really make the Volcano spew . barf chunder chuck .
OR better still , clone her and make EVERY Abdul who comes to the West , have one for his only wife . Any outside female by Abdul is firing squad .
I can understand the decision to choose the procedure be left to a well informed adult woman and only to have the procedure be performed on her. A child should not be mutilated by this procedure and no adult has the right to mutilate a child and have the mutilation protected under the cover of religion
EVIL WITCH!
Clitorectomies are blasphemous because they desocrate what God has created — this evil primitive cruelty against these helpless little victims says God does not know how to make women properly, and so they have to be deformed and mutilated, and changed into a creature more in keeping with a muslim man’s ideal of how a woman should be — namely, without any enjoyment of sex (or anything else) — if sex is painful, then his “wife” will not want it, and the husband need not worry about her looking for another man — she is just there for his personal, exclusive use, and after all, as everyone knows, Muslim men think women are only in this world for three reasons — to cook, to bear children and to provide their husbands with ecstacy — other than this, they have no purpose. Mohammed said: “Paradise for a woman is under her husband’s foot.” Most Muslim men prefer little boys or girls, other men or some kind of animal, to women, who are just boring.
In my opinion, circumcision is just as bad an offende — taking a hunk of skin from a baby who cannot protest and is not asked if he wants this done. God made male babies with foreskins, so why does He want them back after they’re born? Covenant or no covenant, I think this is horribly wrong.
Adam, the first human, was created circumcised. Only after the committing the first did he grow a foreskin.
http://www.shemayisrael.co.il/publicat/hazon/tzedaka/tikun1.htm
In the 1950 encyclical Humani generis, Pope Pius XII stated that there is no intrinsic conflict between Christianity and the theory of evolution, provided that Christians believe that the individual soul is a direct creation by God and not the product of purely material forces.
B*llsh*t.
Humans have appendixes and tonsils. Both can cause life threatening illnesses and are routinely removed as a sideline to other operations. The human body is a product of evolution and is not necessarily optimal design wise.
Germaine Greer
Has always been a very vain self-centred low level thinking female with nothing between the ears but sawdust; but her approval of FGM proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Greer is a scumbag thinker with no sense of decency or caring concern for young girls that are denied the right to live naturally as real women.
Greer’s brain is filled with such high level volumes of ‘False Knowledge’ and hatred for men that there is any wonder that she has any space left to even think.
Greer is a disgrace and is not worthy of being called a human being.
Greer is a disgrace and is not worthy of being called a human being.
Allan you can say that again
How could this so called woman advocate that is demeaning and cruel to women? Being a cultural tradition doesn’t make this horrendous practice right. She’s crazy, She claims that these women want it. NO, their mothers are doing it to them, and the little girls are in pain. It’s a Muslim male thing to want to do this to women. Mutilation doesn’t even cover how evil it is. I bet she’s not sliced open like a melon!