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Dhimmi Pope Francis brings 12 Syrian MUSLIM invaders into the Vatican
No way to know how many of them are would-be Pope-assassins or Islamic terrorists. The Pope said, “We must never forget, however, that migrants, rather than simply being a statistic, are first of all persons who have faces, names and individual stories.” Guess he couldn’t find 12 Christian refugees who are being slaughtered in Syria everyday to take into the Vatican?
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Nimrodsays
Such a disgustingly blatant PR stunt. Are any of them even real refugees or are they just the usual fortune seekers? How about a representative sample with 70% of them being military age males. Better give them some weapons in case they need to defend themselves and make sure they sleep in the Pope’s bedroom along with him.
One can only hope that 1 or 2 of these musloids do their allahu akbar on him & hand him back his head on a silver platter, after all musloids can’t help themselves. Sooner or later they have to revert to their true selves. And hasn’t it always been the objective of pisslam to conquer Rome? What better way than to knock off this misbegotten treasonous pope?
The repercussions SHOULD be severe, but with all the dumbed down dhimmi’s in government maybe not. Certainly Eastern Europe will harden the fuck up even more & a certain Mr Trump might gain even more traction. It certainly would be worth this traitor pope’s willing sacrifice.
What will happen?
Will he try to convert them(this is his JOB!)?
Did they run away after some weeks an go to Germany?
Did they burn the old holy books there?
Will they try to convert Priest and get angry if they dont?
Will they behead somebody?
Will they get Halal food?
Will they try to get a Mosque there?
I’ll give him a pet, a Death Adder, a very small and v v v poisonous Aussie snake. One was about half an inch from my husband once when we lived in a national park. We thought it was a blue tongue lizard at first. Look similar. We froze of course. Had to stand there immobile for around 10 minutes till it slunk off. An ordeal. Someone needs to stick one in his slipper.
When I was a kid, I loved to taunt my Catholic friends on occasion. Got a punch in the face a time or two and gave back the same as well.
Catholics taught me the meaning of the word “HYPOCRITE” at an early age. Nothing I’ve seen since has changed my mind.
What the Spanish did to South America in the name of Jesus is still an enormous travesty. They did it for gold, silver, emeralds, sapphires and diamonds. Slaughtered millions!
The Jesuits enslaved Native Americans with the Church and their schools. Nothing the Catholic Church has ever done has been for anything but it’s own enrichment and power.
This Pope seems to be a throw back to very political and meddling popes during the Middle Ages. There were some dandies! Militant and murderous.
This asshole is dangerous. A week ago he was washing Muslims bare feet. No doubt he takes it up the rectum when ever possible. Probably goes for young boys too.
Why doesn’t he take persecuted Christians from the Middle East or Egypt?
Feelings mutual,Fred. This apostate is, indeed, dangerous. He’ll wind up killing millions by his words, alone, surrendering his, so-called flock, to the ravages of savages.
In recent months Pope Francis has been sending „letters” to Polish people, with his disapproval for our resistance against islamic migrants. He says we have unmerciful hearts, closed for the people in need. And up till know people in Poland are patient, so is Catholic Church(Very anti-islamic). But we have slowly enough. Especially when Church in Poland sends as much money and people (missionaries) as he can- to help Christians persecuted In Syria (in Aleppo), Egypt, Kenya, Nigeria . But it seems it is not important for Pope Fransis. Why?
Not jet. But in my opinion it is slowly coming to an edge. Polish people, leaders and Church won’t change their mind. There’s no such option. But please remember that there’s tradition of huge respect for Vatican in Poland. It is even called “Polonia semper fidelis !”. Now there’s consternation- they don’t know how to react, for the first time in the history of Poland, the line of Vatican is straight different than right wing leaders’ and Cath. Church in Poland, and not only in the case of islam.. So everybody in Poland pretends they don’t hear what Pope Fransis says, but sooner or later they will have to face it and say “NO” straight in his face. Question is: what then?
September 11 1683, ottomans turned back from the gates at Vienna assisted by Polish Catholic Knights.
“Emperor Leopold, however, thought otherwise. By now he was in no doubt as to the sultan’s ultimate objective, and on July 7, he and his court abandoned Vienna and retreated to Passau with all the treasure they could carry, pursued by Tatar cavalry. Nearly sixty thousand Viennese also fled. On July 14, the Ottoman army of roughly ninety thousand effectives set up camp in front of Vienna. An Ottoman envoy appeared at the gates with the demand that the Christians “accept Islam and live in peace under the Sultan!”
Count Ernst Rüdiger von Starhemberg, who had been left in command with about twelve thousand soldiers, cut him short, and a few hours later the bombardment began. Within two days, the Turks had completely surrounded the city and, by one contemporary estimate, were within a mere two thousand paces of the salient angles of the counterscarp. The grand vizier (Mehmet himself had stayed behind in Belgrade) set up a magnificent tent in the center of what was virtually another city outside the walls. There, in the company of an ostrich and a parakeet, he dispensed favors in complete confidence of an eventual victory, and sauntered forth each day to inspect the Turkish trenches.
The situation inside the city grew steadily more desperate as water ran low, garbage piled high in the streets, and little by little the familiar diseases of the besieged—cholera, typhus, dysentery, scurvy—took hold. Yet the defenders managed to hold out for two months. The Turks, as Caprara had rightly observed, possessed very little heavy artillery; what they had could kill people and damage buildings inside the city but made little impact on the massive walls, bastions, ravelins, glacis, caponières, palisades, counterscarps, and the other paraphernalia of sixteenth-century fortifications that ringed Vienna.
The Ottoman siege lines inched ever closer to the city walls, while miners dug elaborate caverns, hoping to place explosives that would blow gaps in the fortifications. In turn, the defenders dug countermines and occasionally exploded ordnance beneath Ottoman trenches. Eventually, mines were being set off daily, and the defenders fought hand-to-hand with attackers making desperate charges against the resulting breaches. Defenders also sortied outside the walls, but could not dislodge the Ottomans or spike their guns. In early September, Starhemberg had only about four thousand defenders left, and the city walls were imperiled at several points.
Meanwhile, a relief army of some sixty thousand men under the joint command of King John III Sobieski of Poland and the emperor’s brother-in-law, Charles Sixte of Lorraine, moved slowly toward the beleaguered city. It included forces from Saxony, Franconia, Bavaria, Bohemia, and Waldeck. Crossing the Danube at Tuln, they marched through the Wienerwald—a mountainous no man’s land covered in dense forest—to approach the city from the west. The Ottomans, assuming that no relief army of any size could possibly penetrate the Wienerwald, had left it largely undefended. It would be a fatal mistake.
The progress of the combined Christian army was slow, but by late Saturday, September 11, it had assembled along the ridges on the edge of the forest. The Ottomans had set up an observation post on the heights known as Kahlenberg, overlooking Vienna, but a small force drove them away and shot off a rocket, to alert the city’s defenders that help was at hand.”
Nina, your comments made my blood boil! There are women in the Phillipines with around eleven children, living in cobbled together shacks who are told by their priests and the luxury loving Vatican dwellers, that they are forbidden to use contraception. They have insufficient food and no joy in their lives. Why isn’t the Pope washing their feet and fawning on them? Who is coming to the aid of Phillipine mothers? No-one.
My dear Pope, the head of the church in which I was raised.
It seems that you have been converted to fundamentalist, pew jumping, deep southern Baptist.
For the Sunday practice of handling a poisonous snake to prove your faith cannot be one iota more dangerous to yourself or the others around you that this.
I have no choice but to believe as I was taught, that as the representative of God on earth, you are infallible in matters of faith and morals. But this is not a matter of faith. This is madness ! Even snakes do not have the inbred history of most muslims. Snakes follow the nature that God has given them. Muslims follow the influence of the union of first cousins (and sometimes aunts or uncles, or even brothers or sisters)or other close relatives which causes little, usually unobtrusive, cracks and short circuts in their basic behavior.
May the Lord see to it that you have not picked one or more of these quasi-human time bombs for the example of your charity.
The clergy may disagree with me, but I do not think or believe that we need another martyr at this time.
This disgusting pope is a Jesuit socialist. Jesuits have always been a bit troublesome. I was raised in this church as well. He’s a plant of some sort. It was v odd that Benedict resigned. That he didn’t want to be the pope of the last prophecy of Fatima ( 1917) is v possible. The one that says a pope would betray his people but that it still wouldn’t save him. Francis admits openly to being a coward. This evil man needs removing. Hopefully one of these ‘ people’ he’s brought in to infect the Vatican will assassinate him. Most Catholics are v against his BS. You can see it in their comments everywhere. East European Catholic leaders are also openly saying ‘ The Pontiff is wrong’. The Catholic church isn’t a stranger to the occasional removal suddenly of errant and dangerous pontiffs. The sudden death of the 1st Pope John Paul has always been viewed as v suspicious. This pope would have to be the most dangerous in all its history and they better do something about him. Their very lives depend on it, the idiots. I bet there are some Italians thinking about it at this v second.
Dear sweetolbob, you say you have NO CHOICE, but to believe as you were TAUGHT. YES, you DO have a CHOICE. God wants each of us to find out for ourselves what HE requires of us. You can find that out by reading a Bible, and asking HIM to tell you what HE wants you to know. If you REALLY want to know HIS TRUTH, HE will tell you.Your “pope” has said the Bible and the quran are the SAME. Do you think that’s correct?? You are trusting what the RC has TOLD you to do, to believe.
Robin:
My letter was addressed to and about the Pope. It was not a condemnation of the Bible or a suggestion that anyone should abandon what they feel is “Christian” while not identifying themselves as to which particular division of Christianity they choose to follow, or snidely damning the teachings of any other Christians.
Do you not believe as you were taught as a child ?
Whatever you profess, or whatever part of Christian belief you choose to beat with the Bible, you’ve got to admit that the Pope’s actions are madness. And as I point out, are not within his scope as the leader of a large division of the Christian faith.
Pee Ess: The Westboro Baptist Church claims to be Christian and “reads the Bible”
too ! Good Christians, eh ?
No mercy from this Judas Pope to Christians Murdered,Raped,Sold into Slavery,No Sympathy to children Raped and Abused by Catholic Priests..only coverup and blaming the victims,many who ended their own lives..But for Cardinal Pell from Australia a senior promotion to the Vatican for services rendered,what did the Cardinal do for this honour?,well he oversaw the coverup and blaming the victims when the truth came out,what a shameful bunch of criminals these monsters are.Take your Muslims and I hope they murder you,no wonder your churches are empty.
Perhaps they think Islam has a better way of dealing with pedophilia. It doesn’t exist in Islam because its a normal everyday event. Its the pinnacle of disgusting. So maybe they think we should just do it the way filthy Islam does it and then we could run rampant through little kids everywhere. Oh its so gross. Even though a few muslims admit its traumatic for kids. There’s a few scum degenerates amongst the so called intelligentsia who say what they call intergenerational sex should be allowed. I want to kill those scum cretins. We shouldn’t have to endure these appalling evil scum in our society. Here in Oz there is a filthy professor from Latrobe Uni who advocates it and he was one of the filth behind that ‘safeschool’ program that caused an outrage a few weeks ago. He was involved in writing it. Now he says we should be considering those people who like ‘ intergenerational sex’, same as we do gays etc. Can you even believe this is happening??? Is it a bad dream???? I mean what’s the point in having Royal commissions on paedophilia in the Catholic church etc?????????????????????? All our societies are collapsing into filth and moral decay, just as Putin said in his 2013 speech. He wont have it in Russia he said. Cant quite recall his name, Gary something I think. I will go find it and post it. He’s no Catholic/Christian. We shouldn’t have to endure these filthy people in our society. How DARE governments inflict them on us???? The Victorian Labor government supports this evil cretin too. I think I should turn into a Guy Fawkes clone soon. Its just TOO much for decent people to keep enduring. Latrobe Uni is Socialist central here in Melbourne too. Its a stinking filthy 3rd rate uni. Its degrees don’t count for much which is why the Socialists are strong there of course. Its degrees are just a joke. People turn their noses up at the mention of them.
A pope out of touch – probably doing Googles without extrapolating on the issue. Meanwhile, Switzerland is getting ready to deploy tanks at its border with Italy to keep the invaders out.
Susan:
The tanks and all the troops in the world will do no good a all unless they actually take action against the invaders.
Like it or not, the native populations are actually going to have to stop a good deal of them with ultimate prejudice. KILL THEM IF THEY REFUSE TO STOP ! Sounds really nasty,doesn’t it ?
Well then, let’s build shelters to burn down for the poor things and give them food that will not eat, and allow them to scream out their adan five times a day, and give them free transportation that they can destroy, and furnish them with all the clothes and schooling, tc. etc. etc. ……………. I’m sure they will appreciate our efforts and thanks us by becoming good citizens.
If the Pope wanted pets… I am sure there are a lot less dangerous creatures the Vatican could have taken in… Cobras, Scorpions, Rabid Jackals…
What is this man thinking? Christians and Yazidis are slaughtered and those that survive face enslavement and persecution. Yet, he does nothing for them.
There are women and children who live in Vatican City. Besides Roman Catholic nuns… some of the Swiss Guard are married and have children. Those wives and children are allowed to live in Vatican City. I wonder if the Pope will tell his Swiss Guard to “stand down” if they catch these muzz maggots harming Vatican City residents, tourists, official diplomatic visitors or even the Pope’s personal circle.
What if the muzz maggots vandalize any of the Vatican City’s gardens, statues or other priceless works of art? Are they going to sneak into the Vatican libraries or archives and set anything on fire? Will Vatican officials cover up statuary or paintings the muzz find offensive?
London, Brussels, Antwerp, Paris, Marseilles, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo….and now Rome. One by one the great cities of Europe are being handed over to the sub human slime known as muzz-lims.
I wonder what will be like relations Catholic Poland and it’s Church with Pope Francis.. Since Polish people, their government, President and Catholic Church in Poland are against muslim-immigrants. Catholic Church in Poland is in straight opposition to liberal politics of Vatican , and this opposition is growing with every month.. Church in Poland has it’s long tradition of fighting along with their people against islam. In the past, King Sobieski every day was praying to Jesus and Virgin Mary for protection from islam. This fact is common known. And nowadays there’s among Polish people/and Church very strong faith that Jesus and his Holly Mother always supported Poland in fight against islam and always helped Poles to win. There’s very very strong faith in Poles that Virgin Mary protects Poland from islam.
So I wonder what Catholic Poland will do with this Pope…
Just google little bit and you should find your answers.
I’m half Polish half German, mother Catholic and dad protestant. Personally I’m agnostic.
The Vatican institution (in the present form) is an obsolete one. They should concentrate on the Catholic faith not on politics.
Polish governments past ones and the present one are under influence of the church. Way too much imho.
Here you have a recent comment of the Polish top religious dog(s) (no insult intended)
http://www.polskieradio.pl/5/3/Artykul/1499897.
Chairman of the Polish Bishops’ Conference calls for helping immigrants.
Quote
Every parish should have to be prepared to receive and find homes/place for people who are persecuted.
said Archbishop Stanislaw Gądecki.
Translated by me on the fly
End of quote
I am guessing that you speak Polish lingo so you can read the whole thing.
Here you have another link from a year ago
With same rhetoric.
Same as the Vatican, the Polish archidiecezja should stick to the faith and stay out of the politics. After all its secular country.
Most Polish nationalists are Catholics but I bet my last cent that they won’t listen to what Cardinals or archbishops have to say on the subject of migrants.
My last observation. Because Polish Catholic Church influence on government, for many years now there is a law that one cannot criticize never mind mock/making fun of any religion.
Under previous leftie government In 2013 there was planed peaceful demonstration in the town of Puławy against militant Islam . During annual few days meeting of Polish Muslim League, with special foreign “guests”
The permit was rejected on the grounds of freedom to exercise religious believes, whatever the religion.
But BNI published last week a video of protest against immigration in Warsaw.
So the change of government to the conservative one is bringing some positive results. And I think that this present GOV is in odds with the Polish Catholic elites on the matter of migrant invasion.
In terms of the Pope, he should be fired. What an embarrassment.
Archbishop Gondecki is only one of the Polish hierarchy. And he was very very criticized by the rest of the church after his speach. Living here, in Poland, being active catholic , having much contacts with priests and nuns, and monks.. I never met a person who would support muslim invaders. NEVER. In Polish churches priests keep asking people to pray to Jezus and Blessed Mary for protection against islam.
And like it or not , but anti-islamic tradition and movement in Poland is essentially identical with Christianity. It makes us strong fighters against islam.
Nina, you say that you need a normal Pope. This is not possible as no Pope supports women. They pay lip service to ‘family values’ but do NOTHING to relieve the suffering of women in the Catholic faith.
Washing the feet of the enemy is not normal. Having a swimming pool built for their own exclusive use, wearing made to measure Gucci shoes, ordering a specially mixed cologne are some of the choices the last few popes have made and it is far from normal behaviour for men who are supposed to represent God.
Nowhere in the bible can I find Jesus saying ‘Go forth and purchase Gucci shoes, order a very large swimming pool and to hell with the poor’.
You’ve struck a nerve, Infidel. IMHO, if Christ were here, he’d puke at what he saw.
These self-appointed, so-called vicars and true heretics are nothing but thieves and panderers to the heartstrings of the weak-minded. In case one hasn’t noticed, I have NO USE for these blaspheming apostates from hell.
And to those who call themselves “Christians”, I have a questions:
Why do you NOT follow the teachings of the Torah?
Was not Christ a JEW?
Did He not say “I have not come to reject My Father’s laws but to enhance them” (paraphrased).
Why does the poop cast aspersions against Judaism when the contrary is commanded?
When did Christ EVER appoint a vicar? Did he need a lawyer, a substitute? A mouthpiece?
Didn’t He say “He that believeth on Me will have everlasting life”?
Didn’t He also say “No one cometh unto the Father (meaning the Father, HaShem, Yahovah, the Creator) but by ME”? Did He mean His vicar? NO!
Are we not commanded to Keep the Holy Days as written in the Torah? Has the rcc ever kept any of the Old Testament “Holy Days”?
You “Christians” out there should really think about this…long and hard. Go ahead and ask your priest or pastor what they think of celebrating Passover or Yom Kippur (see below) or any of the other Holy Days and see their reaction. “By their deeds you will know”…
This Pope is an antipope,he don’t even think of the millions of Christians the Moslems are trying to annihilate an doing a good job at it,this Pope makes me sick he is horrible,all he want to do is look good in front of the camera an say political correct things,Benedict is a much better Pope than this clown,most real Catholics don’t even like him,only the leftwing so called Catholics who don’t eve go to Mass on Sunday like him,we need a real Pope bad,this needs to go his way.
Exactly. No one is looking out for Christian refugees. The Liberals aren’t even looking out for their own either. Women, Gays, and Atheists are also being slaughtered.These leaders are all traitors.
The tragic thing of it all is that if even that actually happened they’d blame it on one person with a mental illness and not islam, the stupidity of the liberal masses is going to be their downfall.
That’s the problem with liberals, be they religious leaders, teachers, college professors or politicians. They live in this ‘live and let live’ fantasy world where everyone can get a long–‘we just need to understand each other’. They shrug off history and it’s lessons as nonsense believing that through their kindness and kind, loving acts they can make a better world. All the while the cockroaches are multiplying and infesting–taking over their lives and livelihoods. Muslims have no place in Western culture and be they moderate or extreme they need to be banished back to the shithole lands where they came from. A little intolerance just might save your fucking life.
Hmmm. . . Reminds me of Aesop’s Fable about the mouse and the snake. You all know the story. “You knew I was a snake, and you let me in anyway. What did you think was going to happen?” Said the snake as he was swallowing the mouse.
Such a disgustingly blatant PR stunt. Are any of them even real refugees or are they just the usual fortune seekers? How about a representative sample with 70% of them being military age males. Better give them some weapons in case they need to defend themselves and make sure they sleep in the Pope’s bedroom along with him.
Maybe there are some jihadists among them. Now that would make things interesting.
These refugess have been taken to a commune where I believe they are required to work…….should be interesting.
http://www.santegidio.org/pageID/2/langID/en/THE-COMMUNITY.html
http://www.historynet.com/turning-the-ottoman-tide-john-iii-sobieski-at-vienna-1683.htm
Franky is a retard commie. He hates Christians more than he does Jews.
I just can’t get what kind of idiots voted for him? Is this now the Vatican?
One can only hope that 1 or 2 of these musloids do their allahu akbar on him & hand him back his head on a silver platter, after all musloids can’t help themselves. Sooner or later they have to revert to their true selves. And hasn’t it always been the objective of pisslam to conquer Rome? What better way than to knock off this misbegotten treasonous pope?
The repercussions SHOULD be severe, but with all the dumbed down dhimmi’s in government maybe not. Certainly Eastern Europe will harden the fuck up even more & a certain Mr Trump might gain even more traction. It certainly would be worth this traitor pope’s willing sacrifice.
What will happen?
Will he try to convert them(this is his JOB!)?
Did they run away after some weeks an go to Germany?
Did they burn the old holy books there?
Will they try to convert Priest and get angry if they dont?
Will they behead somebody?
Will they get Halal food?
Will they try to get a Mosque there?
I’ll give him a pet, a Death Adder, a very small and v v v poisonous Aussie snake. One was about half an inch from my husband once when we lived in a national park. We thought it was a blue tongue lizard at first. Look similar. We froze of course. Had to stand there immobile for around 10 minutes till it slunk off. An ordeal. Someone needs to stick one in his slipper.
When I was a kid, I loved to taunt my Catholic friends on occasion. Got a punch in the face a time or two and gave back the same as well.
Catholics taught me the meaning of the word “HYPOCRITE” at an early age. Nothing I’ve seen since has changed my mind.
What the Spanish did to South America in the name of Jesus is still an enormous travesty. They did it for gold, silver, emeralds, sapphires and diamonds. Slaughtered millions!
The Jesuits enslaved Native Americans with the Church and their schools. Nothing the Catholic Church has ever done has been for anything but it’s own enrichment and power.
This Pope seems to be a throw back to very political and meddling popes during the Middle Ages. There were some dandies! Militant and murderous.
This asshole is dangerous. A week ago he was washing Muslims bare feet. No doubt he takes it up the rectum when ever possible. Probably goes for young boys too.
Why doesn’t he take persecuted Christians from the Middle East or Egypt?
Dipshit!
Feelings mutual,Fred. This apostate is, indeed, dangerous. He’ll wind up killing millions by his words, alone, surrendering his, so-called flock, to the ravages of savages.
Hows Walid Shoebat going to explain this one?.
In recent months Pope Francis has been sending „letters” to Polish people, with his disapproval for our resistance against islamic migrants. He says we have unmerciful hearts, closed for the people in need. And up till know people in Poland are patient, so is Catholic Church(Very anti-islamic). But we have slowly enough. Especially when Church in Poland sends as much money and people (missionaries) as he can- to help Christians persecuted In Syria (in Aleppo), Egypt, Kenya, Nigeria . But it seems it is not important for Pope Fransis. Why?
I am hoping the Polish leaders told the pope what he can do with his unwanted advice.
Not jet. But in my opinion it is slowly coming to an edge. Polish people, leaders and Church won’t change their mind. There’s no such option. But please remember that there’s tradition of huge respect for Vatican in Poland. It is even called “Polonia semper fidelis !”. Now there’s consternation- they don’t know how to react, for the first time in the history of Poland, the line of Vatican is straight different than right wing leaders’ and Cath. Church in Poland, and not only in the case of islam.. So everybody in Poland pretends they don’t hear what Pope Fransis says, but sooner or later they will have to face it and say “NO” straight in his face. Question is: what then?
Then they will set off a chain reaction and others will do the same.
September 11 1683, ottomans turned back from the gates at Vienna assisted by Polish Catholic Knights.
“Emperor Leopold, however, thought otherwise. By now he was in no doubt as to the sultan’s ultimate objective, and on July 7, he and his court abandoned Vienna and retreated to Passau with all the treasure they could carry, pursued by Tatar cavalry. Nearly sixty thousand Viennese also fled. On July 14, the Ottoman army of roughly ninety thousand effectives set up camp in front of Vienna. An Ottoman envoy appeared at the gates with the demand that the Christians “accept Islam and live in peace under the Sultan!”
Count Ernst Rüdiger von Starhemberg, who had been left in command with about twelve thousand soldiers, cut him short, and a few hours later the bombardment began. Within two days, the Turks had completely surrounded the city and, by one contemporary estimate, were within a mere two thousand paces of the salient angles of the counterscarp. The grand vizier (Mehmet himself had stayed behind in Belgrade) set up a magnificent tent in the center of what was virtually another city outside the walls. There, in the company of an ostrich and a parakeet, he dispensed favors in complete confidence of an eventual victory, and sauntered forth each day to inspect the Turkish trenches.
The situation inside the city grew steadily more desperate as water ran low, garbage piled high in the streets, and little by little the familiar diseases of the besieged—cholera, typhus, dysentery, scurvy—took hold. Yet the defenders managed to hold out for two months. The Turks, as Caprara had rightly observed, possessed very little heavy artillery; what they had could kill people and damage buildings inside the city but made little impact on the massive walls, bastions, ravelins, glacis, caponières, palisades, counterscarps, and the other paraphernalia of sixteenth-century fortifications that ringed Vienna.
The Ottoman siege lines inched ever closer to the city walls, while miners dug elaborate caverns, hoping to place explosives that would blow gaps in the fortifications. In turn, the defenders dug countermines and occasionally exploded ordnance beneath Ottoman trenches. Eventually, mines were being set off daily, and the defenders fought hand-to-hand with attackers making desperate charges against the resulting breaches. Defenders also sortied outside the walls, but could not dislodge the Ottomans or spike their guns. In early September, Starhemberg had only about four thousand defenders left, and the city walls were imperiled at several points.
Meanwhile, a relief army of some sixty thousand men under the joint command of King John III Sobieski of Poland and the emperor’s brother-in-law, Charles Sixte of Lorraine, moved slowly toward the beleaguered city. It included forces from Saxony, Franconia, Bavaria, Bohemia, and Waldeck. Crossing the Danube at Tuln, they marched through the Wienerwald—a mountainous no man’s land covered in dense forest—to approach the city from the west. The Ottomans, assuming that no relief army of any size could possibly penetrate the Wienerwald, had left it largely undefended. It would be a fatal mistake.
The progress of the combined Christian army was slow, but by late Saturday, September 11, it had assembled along the ridges on the edge of the forest. The Ottomans had set up an observation post on the heights known as Kahlenberg, overlooking Vienna, but a small force drove them away and shot off a rocket, to alert the city’s defenders that help was at hand.”
Thanks for posting this, Marstar. Interesting little tidbit of history.
Nina, your comments made my blood boil! There are women in the Phillipines with around eleven children, living in cobbled together shacks who are told by their priests and the luxury loving Vatican dwellers, that they are forbidden to use contraception. They have insufficient food and no joy in their lives. Why isn’t the Pope washing their feet and fawning on them? Who is coming to the aid of Phillipine mothers? No-one.
My dear Pope, the head of the church in which I was raised.
It seems that you have been converted to fundamentalist, pew jumping, deep southern Baptist.
For the Sunday practice of handling a poisonous snake to prove your faith cannot be one iota more dangerous to yourself or the others around you that this.
I have no choice but to believe as I was taught, that as the representative of God on earth, you are infallible in matters of faith and morals. But this is not a matter of faith. This is madness ! Even snakes do not have the inbred history of most muslims. Snakes follow the nature that God has given them. Muslims follow the influence of the union of first cousins (and sometimes aunts or uncles, or even brothers or sisters)or other close relatives which causes little, usually unobtrusive, cracks and short circuts in their basic behavior.
May the Lord see to it that you have not picked one or more of these quasi-human time bombs for the example of your charity.
The clergy may disagree with me, but I do not think or believe that we need another martyr at this time.
This disgusting pope is a Jesuit socialist. Jesuits have always been a bit troublesome. I was raised in this church as well. He’s a plant of some sort. It was v odd that Benedict resigned. That he didn’t want to be the pope of the last prophecy of Fatima ( 1917) is v possible. The one that says a pope would betray his people but that it still wouldn’t save him. Francis admits openly to being a coward. This evil man needs removing. Hopefully one of these ‘ people’ he’s brought in to infect the Vatican will assassinate him. Most Catholics are v against his BS. You can see it in their comments everywhere. East European Catholic leaders are also openly saying ‘ The Pontiff is wrong’. The Catholic church isn’t a stranger to the occasional removal suddenly of errant and dangerous pontiffs. The sudden death of the 1st Pope John Paul has always been viewed as v suspicious. This pope would have to be the most dangerous in all its history and they better do something about him. Their very lives depend on it, the idiots. I bet there are some Italians thinking about it at this v second.
Dear sweetolbob, you say you have NO CHOICE, but to believe as you were TAUGHT. YES, you DO have a CHOICE. God wants each of us to find out for ourselves what HE requires of us. You can find that out by reading a Bible, and asking HIM to tell you what HE wants you to know. If you REALLY want to know HIS TRUTH, HE will tell you.Your “pope” has said the Bible and the quran are the SAME. Do you think that’s correct?? You are trusting what the RC has TOLD you to do, to believe.
Robin:
My letter was addressed to and about the Pope. It was not a condemnation of the Bible or a suggestion that anyone should abandon what they feel is “Christian” while not identifying themselves as to which particular division of Christianity they choose to follow, or snidely damning the teachings of any other Christians.
Do you not believe as you were taught as a child ?
Whatever you profess, or whatever part of Christian belief you choose to beat with the Bible, you’ve got to admit that the Pope’s actions are madness. And as I point out, are not within his scope as the leader of a large division of the Christian faith.
Pee Ess: The Westboro Baptist Church claims to be Christian and “reads the Bible”
too ! Good Christians, eh ?
No mercy from this Judas Pope to Christians Murdered,Raped,Sold into Slavery,No Sympathy to children Raped and Abused by Catholic Priests..only coverup and blaming the victims,many who ended their own lives..But for Cardinal Pell from Australia a senior promotion to the Vatican for services rendered,what did the Cardinal do for this honour?,well he oversaw the coverup and blaming the victims when the truth came out,what a shameful bunch of criminals these monsters are.Take your Muslims and I hope they murder you,no wonder your churches are empty.
Perhaps they think Islam has a better way of dealing with pedophilia. It doesn’t exist in Islam because its a normal everyday event. Its the pinnacle of disgusting. So maybe they think we should just do it the way filthy Islam does it and then we could run rampant through little kids everywhere. Oh its so gross. Even though a few muslims admit its traumatic for kids. There’s a few scum degenerates amongst the so called intelligentsia who say what they call intergenerational sex should be allowed. I want to kill those scum cretins. We shouldn’t have to endure these appalling evil scum in our society. Here in Oz there is a filthy professor from Latrobe Uni who advocates it and he was one of the filth behind that ‘safeschool’ program that caused an outrage a few weeks ago. He was involved in writing it. Now he says we should be considering those people who like ‘ intergenerational sex’, same as we do gays etc. Can you even believe this is happening??? Is it a bad dream???? I mean what’s the point in having Royal commissions on paedophilia in the Catholic church etc?????????????????????? All our societies are collapsing into filth and moral decay, just as Putin said in his 2013 speech. He wont have it in Russia he said. Cant quite recall his name, Gary something I think. I will go find it and post it. He’s no Catholic/Christian. We shouldn’t have to endure these filthy people in our society. How DARE governments inflict them on us???? The Victorian Labor government supports this evil cretin too. I think I should turn into a Guy Fawkes clone soon. Its just TOO much for decent people to keep enduring. Latrobe Uni is Socialist central here in Melbourne too. Its a stinking filthy 3rd rate uni. Its degrees don’t count for much which is why the Socialists are strong there of course. Its degrees are just a joke. People turn their noses up at the mention of them.
The paedophile and supremely evil cretin’s name is Professor Gary Dowsett.
A pope out of touch – probably doing Googles without extrapolating on the issue. Meanwhile, Switzerland is getting ready to deploy tanks at its border with Italy to keep the invaders out.
Susan:
The tanks and all the troops in the world will do no good a all unless they actually take action against the invaders.
Like it or not, the native populations are actually going to have to stop a good deal of them with ultimate prejudice. KILL THEM IF THEY REFUSE TO STOP ! Sounds really nasty,doesn’t it ?
Well then, let’s build shelters to burn down for the poor things and give them food that will not eat, and allow them to scream out their adan five times a day, and give them free transportation that they can destroy, and furnish them with all the clothes and schooling, tc. etc. etc. ……………. I’m sure they will appreciate our efforts and thanks us by becoming good citizens.
If the Pope wanted pets… I am sure there are a lot less dangerous creatures the Vatican could have taken in… Cobras, Scorpions, Rabid Jackals…
What is this man thinking? Christians and Yazidis are slaughtered and those that survive face enslavement and persecution. Yet, he does nothing for them.
There are women and children who live in Vatican City. Besides Roman Catholic nuns… some of the Swiss Guard are married and have children. Those wives and children are allowed to live in Vatican City. I wonder if the Pope will tell his Swiss Guard to “stand down” if they catch these muzz maggots harming Vatican City residents, tourists, official diplomatic visitors or even the Pope’s personal circle.
What if the muzz maggots vandalize any of the Vatican City’s gardens, statues or other priceless works of art? Are they going to sneak into the Vatican libraries or archives and set anything on fire? Will Vatican officials cover up statuary or paintings the muzz find offensive?
London, Brussels, Antwerp, Paris, Marseilles, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo….and now Rome. One by one the great cities of Europe are being handed over to the sub human slime known as muzz-lims.
“By their deeds ye shall know”…
I wonder what will be like relations Catholic Poland and it’s Church with Pope Francis.. Since Polish people, their government, President and Catholic Church in Poland are against muslim-immigrants. Catholic Church in Poland is in straight opposition to liberal politics of Vatican , and this opposition is growing with every month.. Church in Poland has it’s long tradition of fighting along with their people against islam. In the past, King Sobieski every day was praying to Jesus and Virgin Mary for protection from islam. This fact is common known. And nowadays there’s among Polish people/and Church very strong faith that Jesus and his Holly Mother always supported Poland in fight against islam and always helped Poles to win. There’s very very strong faith in Poles that Virgin Mary protects Poland from islam.
So I wonder what Catholic Poland will do with this Pope…
Just google little bit and you should find your answers.
I’m half Polish half German, mother Catholic and dad protestant. Personally I’m agnostic.
The Vatican institution (in the present form) is an obsolete one. They should concentrate on the Catholic faith not on politics.
Polish governments past ones and the present one are under influence of the church. Way too much imho.
Here you have a recent comment of the Polish top religious dog(s) (no insult intended)
http://www.polskieradio.pl/5/3/Artykul/1499897.
Chairman of the Polish Bishops’ Conference calls for helping immigrants.
Quote
Every parish should have to be prepared to receive and find homes/place for people who are persecuted.
said Archbishop Stanislaw Gądecki.
Translated by me on the fly
End of quote
I am guessing that you speak Polish lingo so you can read the whole thing.
Here you have another link from a year ago
With same rhetoric.
Same as the Vatican, the Polish archidiecezja should stick to the faith and stay out of the politics. After all its secular country.
Most Polish nationalists are Catholics but I bet my last cent that they won’t listen to what Cardinals or archbishops have to say on the subject of migrants.
My last observation. Because Polish Catholic Church influence on government, for many years now there is a law that one cannot criticize never mind mock/making fun of any religion.
Under previous leftie government In 2013 there was planed peaceful demonstration in the town of Puławy against militant Islam . During annual few days meeting of Polish Muslim League, with special foreign “guests”
The permit was rejected on the grounds of freedom to exercise religious believes, whatever the religion.
But BNI published last week a video of protest against immigration in Warsaw.
So the change of government to the conservative one is bringing some positive results. And I think that this present GOV is in odds with the Polish Catholic elites on the matter of migrant invasion.
In terms of the Pope, he should be fired. What an embarrassment.
Archbishop Gondecki is only one of the Polish hierarchy. And he was very very criticized by the rest of the church after his speach. Living here, in Poland, being active catholic , having much contacts with priests and nuns, and monks.. I never met a person who would support muslim invaders. NEVER. In Polish churches priests keep asking people to pray to Jezus and Blessed Mary for protection against islam.
And like it or not , but anti-islamic tradition and movement in Poland is essentially identical with Christianity. It makes us strong fighters against islam.
I always have said that Vatcan city should be burned to the ground. Disgust & a slap in the face
No, just get rid of a terrible pope.
Please do not say that. Vatican (The Holy See) is a heart of Catholic Church. muslims dream of destroying it. We need normal Pope.
Nina, you say that you need a normal Pope. This is not possible as no Pope supports women. They pay lip service to ‘family values’ but do NOTHING to relieve the suffering of women in the Catholic faith.
Washing the feet of the enemy is not normal. Having a swimming pool built for their own exclusive use, wearing made to measure Gucci shoes, ordering a specially mixed cologne are some of the choices the last few popes have made and it is far from normal behaviour for men who are supposed to represent God.
Nowhere in the bible can I find Jesus saying ‘Go forth and purchase Gucci shoes, order a very large swimming pool and to hell with the poor’.
You’ve struck a nerve, Infidel. IMHO, if Christ were here, he’d puke at what he saw.
These self-appointed, so-called vicars and true heretics are nothing but thieves and panderers to the heartstrings of the weak-minded. In case one hasn’t noticed, I have NO USE for these blaspheming apostates from hell.
And to those who call themselves “Christians”, I have a questions:
Why do you NOT follow the teachings of the Torah?
Was not Christ a JEW?
Did He not say “I have not come to reject My Father’s laws but to enhance them” (paraphrased).
Why does the poop cast aspersions against Judaism when the contrary is commanded?
When did Christ EVER appoint a vicar? Did he need a lawyer, a substitute? A mouthpiece?
Didn’t He say “He that believeth on Me will have everlasting life”?
Didn’t He also say “No one cometh unto the Father (meaning the Father, HaShem, Yahovah, the Creator) but by ME”? Did He mean His vicar? NO!
Are we not commanded to Keep the Holy Days as written in the Torah? Has the rcc ever kept any of the Old Testament “Holy Days”?
You “Christians” out there should really think about this…long and hard. Go ahead and ask your priest or pastor what they think of celebrating Passover or Yom Kippur (see below) or any of the other Holy Days and see their reaction. “By their deeds you will know”…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur
You’re right, Infidel. Absolutely right!
Is there. “like” button? lol
Press here: lmao! I fully expect to get some flak for this “diatribe”…lol
This Pope is an antipope,he don’t even think of the millions of Christians the Moslems are trying to annihilate an doing a good job at it,this Pope makes me sick he is horrible,all he want to do is look good in front of the camera an say political correct things,Benedict is a much better Pope than this clown,most real Catholics don’t even like him,only the leftwing so called Catholics who don’t eve go to Mass on Sunday like him,we need a real Pope bad,this needs to go his way.
Why didn’t this fool take in the twelve Christians thrown out by barmy Obama?
Europe didn’t learn the first time. First the Jews. Now the Christians. All in favor of that Muslim filth. WWIII is on the horizon.
Why this wise guy never offered christian refugees nor spoke for them ?
He is just like obama http://tinyurl.com/qzzoqru
Exactly. No one is looking out for Christian refugees. The Liberals aren’t even looking out for their own either. Women, Gays, and Atheists are also being slaughtered.These leaders are all traitors.
I hope they turn on him and saw off his head on camera.
The tragic thing of it all is that if even that actually happened they’d blame it on one person with a mental illness and not islam, the stupidity of the liberal masses is going to be their downfall.
I know you’re right but the satisfaction of watching it happen and knowing who did it would negate the fact that liberals think otherwise.
That’s the problem with liberals, be they religious leaders, teachers, college professors or politicians. They live in this ‘live and let live’ fantasy world where everyone can get a long–‘we just need to understand each other’. They shrug off history and it’s lessons as nonsense believing that through their kindness and kind, loving acts they can make a better world. All the while the cockroaches are multiplying and infesting–taking over their lives and livelihoods. Muslims have no place in Western culture and be they moderate or extreme they need to be banished back to the shithole lands where they came from. A little intolerance just might save your fucking life.
Hmmm. . . Reminds me of Aesop’s Fable about the mouse and the snake. You all know the story. “You knew I was a snake, and you let me in anyway. What did you think was going to happen?” Said the snake as he was swallowing the mouse.
Maybe one of them will suddenly “go muslim” and slit his throat. Hey it could happen, it’s what mooseslime do you know. The stupid jerk!!!!!