Not only that, I have a balance in my Paypal account of $6,774.02 and they will not allow me to withdraw the money for 180 days. When I tried to transfer the money to my bank account, all they will transfer is $6.77.
I am pretty sure the reason has something to do with the kind of blog BNI is, but they refuse to state a reason. I have tried calling and emailing them several times. Below are 2 the 7 responses (all the same) to my different emails sent to Paypal.
ORIGINAL EMAIL FROM PAYPAL:
We recently noticed an issue with your account.
What’s the problem?
When you signed up for your PayPal account, you agreed to our User Agreement and Acceptable Use Policy. Because some of your recent transactions violated this policy, we’ve had to permanently limit your account.
Please remove any references to PayPal from your website.
You’ll be able to withdraw any money in your account 180 days after your last transaction. We’ll email you when it’s ready to be withdrawn.
Case ID Number: PP-005-767-187-012
Because of this issue, your account has been permanently limited. We understand this may be frustrating and inconvenient but you’ll still be able to see your transaction history for a limited time.
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Thank you for your email. As indicated in our letter to you of Apr 27, 2017, your account was permanently limited following our recent review of your account usage. We regrettably are not able to provide you with information about the basis of that action beyond what is included in our initial letter.
We appreciate your understanding regarding this matter. If you have any further questions or need our support, please contact us at [email protected].
Sincerely,
PayPal Brand Risk Management
Sophia
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Thank you for your email. As indicated in our letter to you of Apr 27, 2017, your account was permanently limited following our recent review of your account usage. We regrettably are not able to provide you with information about the basis of that action beyond what is included in our initial letter.
We appreciate your understanding regarding this matter. If you have any further questions or need our support, please contact us at [email protected].
Sincerely,
PayPal Brand Risk Management
Jeff
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I will be setting up a new way to accept donations and advertising payments. If you are a BNI monthly donator, your automatic payments no longer will be processed by Paypal. If you are a BNI advertiser, please contact me at [email protected] to arrange payment temporarily until a new system is installed. I am open to suggestions if you have any.
There already is a Class Action suit against Paypal over this policy: you-may-be-owed-money-from-paypal-in-class-action-settlement-for-improper-holds-reserves-and-suspension-of-paypal-accounts
PAYPAL Prohibited Activities
You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
- violate any law, statute, ordinance or regulation.
- relate to transactions involving (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) cigarettes, (d) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (e) stolen goods including digital and virtual goods, (f) the promotion of hate, violence, racial intolerance or the financial exploitation of a crime, (g) items that are considered obscene, (h) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (i) certain sexually oriented materials or services, (j) ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (k) certain weapons or knives regulated under applicable law.
- relate to transactions that (a) show the personal information of third parties in violation of applicable law, (b) support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other “get rich quick” schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs, (c) are associated with purchases of annuities or lottery contracts, lay-away systems, off-shore banking or transactions to finance or refinance debts funded by a credit card, (d) are for the sale of certain items before the seller has control or possession of the item, (e) are by payment processors to collect payments on behalf of merchants, (f) are associated with the sale of traveler’s cheques or money orders, (h) involve currency exchanges or cheque cashing businesses, (i) involve certain credit repair, debt settlement services, credit transactions or insurance activities, or (k) involve offering or receiving payments for the purpose of bribery or corruption.
- involve the sales of products or services identified by government agencies to have a high likelihood of being fraudulent.
A: Find a new payment service. Pay attention who own it. I suspect this will be an ongoing battle with new services spring up to replace services corrupted by the elitist agenda.
B: File a complaint with your state’s attorney general. This may even devolve into a federal lawsuit.
Already did that. This is an old post.
I’m sure you’ve found similar things, but here was the best list I found for Pay-pal alternatives: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/top-12-alternatives-paypal/
Pay-pal sure goes out of their way to get us to let them “manage” our money, but then they freeze your money for 6 months with no due process? That has got to be illegal! If a real bank tried that shit, they would have the Feds on their ass in a heartbeat.
Thanks, toxic, there are a few on there we are looking into
BNI, there’s an app called Revolut, its legit its owned by MasterCard, its totally free to get one, its mainly to use like a credit card without fees, but I believe u get an account number and sort code and third parties can also pay into it, to do it without fees the donaters would need to open one too(which is very easy to do no major details needed so its fairly private) and transfer money into it then to u, not sure if it’ll work but it might b worth looking into. Good luck I hope u sort it out.
PayPal are are bastards I hate that they’ve done this yet no doubt support the slimes, I have to use them because I’ve not a lot of cash and have to buy a lot of used stuff, only slimes get free stuff here not infidels, and most sellers on these sites only accept PayPal?
Will check it out
This comment may be too stupid to publish but if all else fails couldn’t you sell a badge and stickers, like on e-bay where people could buy it with a ‘bid now ‘ action so pledge what we want too. We can e-mail to say if we want items dispatched, at the end of the day it’s keeping you going.
Your work is so important, I made a small donation a good while ago and will certainly make a contribution when you set up a new way to pay. Good Luck, keep the faith my friend.
Thanks very much, reunion.
Hello BNI, for what it is worth I canceled my PayPal account yesterday. As soon as there’s another way to send you a donation I will. Keep up the great work
Thanks, Frank, hope to have a new service up soon.
Bonni, I tried to send a donation the other day, but paypal wouldn’t let me. Now I know why. I will donate as soon as you have a place set up. I really appreciate all you do to keep us informed.
Thank you, Lainey
As soon as you have another method of donation, email me.
[email protected]
dye, I can’t mail everyone, but will put a post up about it and then the information will remain in the top banner ad in the sidebar where the Paypal info was.
PayPal; Facebook; Twitter; other ‘social media’ sites are all trending to the ‘useful idiots for Islam’ status. Soon muslims will find a way to make them all ‘halal’…Amazon/Ebay next? Zuckerberg the Jew hater I particularly detest, not that I’m Jewish nor do I live in Israel [but sometimes wish I could].
Too old, sadly.
Refuse to use any of these, have cancelled my membership of all except PayPal-now will cancel that, too.
60 years ago we never heard Islam or Jihad; what a job it has done on us! How naive have we been? Still, if push comes to shove, I have completed a pistol training course & enjoyed firing .22 automatic, 38 semi, Glock 9mm, 38 revolver, 45 revolver and even long barrel 357 Magnum. Never too old to learn…or have fun!
Find yourself a REALLY good lawyer. See if they’ll take your case pro bono. If not, set up a gofundme account and explain what the money will be used for. Shout this at the top of your lungs everywhere. Get everyone to link to it. Send it to Hannity, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Michelle Malkin, Mark Steyn, Glenn Reynolds, anyone with a loud media voice. Embarrass them. Get your local “Help Me Hank” news reporter to help. Call your Senator and Representative. Make enough noise that people start to ask questions. Be a complete and total nuisance. Be the squeakiest of squeaky wheels. Good luck!
Stout, I have a call in to one of the best lawyers problems like this. If he doesn’t think he can do anything (because Paypal’s terms and conditions say they can hold my money for 180 days if they want to) I’ll consider sending the information to some of those people. Though I doubt they would do anything either. I’m not good at being a squeaky wheel
I am soo sorry this is happen BNI
This could be the first of many bloggers this happens to.
And yet CAIR still has the Paypal button up on their website. So apparently, being linked to HAMAS: good. Telling the truth about the seventh century death cult whose members wish to see the subjugation (or failing that, the death) of every non moslem: bad.
I’m sorry this happened to you. It didn’t come out of nowhere, though The question is, which moslem organization or sympathizer started the trouble. Likely there is no way to find out.
We need a payment platform run by people with a right wing perspective so this type of thing doesn’t happen!
Yes, that would be great.
So sorry to hear about your painful ordeal. Fingers crossed you’ll be able to retrieve your funds. I can see CAIR footprints all over this financial ambush. I guess they just contact financial and communications companies directly with their hit lists. Striking it where it hurts. It’s jus mind boggling how resourceful and strategic the warriors of Mo are, using our inventions, values, laws, achievements against us!
Feeling so furious and helpless right now! Hope you’ll get the legal help and backing to take PayPal to cleaners. Good luck!
Thanks, I’m trying.
you were the only reason I had a pay pal acc now I can tell them kiss my ass they have been a dirty name in the gun broker trade for a long time as anti gun lefties , I have never seen the like before ! always thought they bank roll porn and is where they belong doing business glad you are going to make the break
I’ve never used pay pal. I find it hard to understand how a financial institution can do this to you without breaking about a thousand laws.
Wish I was a financial attorney.
Good luck. Let us hope that Trump can straighten this out but for now, the administration still serves Obama.
Thank you for your advice and horror stories regarding Paypal BNI readers. This has helped me to decide not to use Paypal for my business. Checks, cash, credit cards and Bank to Bank E-transfers are the only way to go.
I’ve always been suspicious of PP, now more. Please find a way to contribute money now with more reason. Thanks for your excellent information blog.
Working on it
I tried repeatedly to cancel my Paypal Account, but no matter what I did, I couldn’t. I even shut down my computer 2 times and started, again, but they wouldn’t put it through. So, I cancelled/closed each one of those I had Paypal payments to. Let’s see if this works. So sorry BNI Bonni. I will go to debit now.
I can’t figure where to click on this site (on the right side) so that I can set up auto-debit, because I closed out the Paypal account, There is the info about donations at the top, but how do we follow through?
SW, there is nothing set up yet. I will let you know when there is.
Starwish, any payments you made to BNI prior to 4/27 are in my account. If you try to get a refund you will, but it will make them put a longer hold on my funds. Just close your account.
Don’t worry. I just closed out, nothing more.
Well, I just went to paypal and emptied my account and couldn’t find how to contact them directly to complain so I went to their user forum and voiced my opinion of what they did to you. Fuck paypal. Guess I better start using Amazon and their payment methods rather than ebay.
Thanks, Greg
Greg, what is the link to their user forum? I could not find it.
I am so terribly sorry that PayPal pulled this shit on you! Please let us know if you want us to write to PayPal individually showing our support for you. You have mentioned that it worked for Ms.Geller. It simply is not right that someone in a position of trust could legally prevent you from accessing YOUR funds!
I guess it couldn’t hurt.
PayPal is NOT SECURE from THEFT. Never has been.
Neither are a lot of those plastic cards you all use.
Many of the local banks are totally dishonest too.
This is all INTENTIONAL from our glorious government so
you will readily accept the microchip coming your way!
I’m sorry to hear that.
It’s beyond hilarious how they essentially ban you, yet I wonder how many ISlam fueled terrorist attacks have been partially funded through means of paypal? Lots.
Obviously, there is some cultist scumbag within the paypal organisation who has taken exception to the website.
Just yet another example of clamping down on freedom of speech and expression.
The closer we get to giving ISlam more of a voice, the more we silence those of everyone else.
Never leave a balance in your PP account. Never grant PP permission to access your credit card or checking account. Set up an online “bill pay” account with your bank which allows you to transfer money to PP when you intend to use PP to make a purchase and then, only the amount of the desired transaction (plus PP fees if any). Whenever someone deposits money to your PP immediately make a full withdrawal. Leave them with nothing they can hold over you.
I agree – limit your transactions.
Set up or add a separate savings or checking account to your current bank accounts and use it ONLY for outgoing payments.
This limits the risk of over-extracting funds or fraudulent theft. Deposit or transfer ONLY the amount of the debits and lower your risks.
Be smart!
$6700 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would be fuming.
Gotta be a better way.
Some kind of e-transfer …??
No, this 180 day hold is buried in their terms of service so when you get a Paypal account, you agree to it, it seems.
1. Time to spread the news about the obvious dishonnesty, unreliability of PayPal and warning people that their money is not safe any longer when they are dealing with this outfit. And spread it as often and widely as possible – twitter, facebook etc.
2. Collect and then publish a list of alternative payment methods.
3. Question: Who are they ? As this is an islam-critical site, they would have to be islam-affiliated ?
4. BNI, keep up your brave fight !
There are a lot of alternatives. My webmaster is helping me find one.
I hope you did. Like your blog. Good work !
closed my PayPal account
Sorry to hear this, Bonni.
If PayPal are holding your money they must be making interest from it and surely that is illegal.
NukeISISraHell’s comments need a strong reply from you or have I misunderstood something?
Etti, he keeps coming back and using different names and IP numbers. Emma asked me to approve such vile comments once in a while so she can practice her attack-dog skills.
Bonni, thanks for your replies. Emma’s plan gave me a good laugh!
I personally want to thank nuke. He/she serves the same purpose as the man who comes out to pump my septic tank. If you look at where that tank is it appears to be just part of the landscape. Grass grows over it and it’s all pretty and blends in. That is, until he lifts the lid off. The stench is overwhelming and you can then see that underneath that green grass is a putrid cesspool.
Nuke, lifts the lid off of all of the lies about pisslam being a religion of peace and love and displays the core of shit that it truly is. Underneath that persona that they publicly display is a festering, foul hatred for all that is good, beautiful and true. So, thank you, nuke. You validate every post on this site re. islam. You lift the lid off of the lies and show it for what it is. You’re so stupid that you don’t even recognize that you’re doing it. More people need to see this side of the”poor, persecuted” mohammedans! Oh, and DEATH TO ISLAM!!!!!
Yes, they are. Can you imagine how much money they make by doing this to tens of thousands of accounts? Other people’s moneu just sits in their coffers, interest free.
Just tried to delete my account, so bloody difficult!! SMS code to verify it’s my account. My account was suddenly set to “Limited” due to suspicious activity!!, so i must again verify!! Must wait for ‘verification code’ to be sent in 3 working days to my online Visa account. Then back to paypal to enter the 4 digit code to remove “Limited” so i can proceed to close. A charge of $2AU will apply, and taken from my Visa account. It’s obvious they are making it ‘Very Difficult’ to close accounts. Bloody arseholes…..
tommo. I read that they don’t like to close accounts because that way they can maintain all your bank and credit card information. If you close it, you should leave $1.00 in your account because then it goes to the dead file with unclaimed funds.
I’m so sorry BNI, hopefully this will have a silver lining & you will find a much more private & supportive payment gateway.
I hope so.
Don’t forget that the owner /CEO of PayPal gave a speech at Trump’s nomination hoopla. Maybe a complaint to the White House is in order.
How disgusting, Well I won’t be using them anymore they can’t be trusted. Why are they holding your money for so long? I guess the thing to learn from this is whatever you decide to use limit the amount of money you have in your account.
Last year I had a dispute with a company to which I paid money for their software through PayPal. I asked the company for help getting their software to work and they instead called me names and insulted me. I them requested a refund from PayPal and got an email back from the software company saying that they would fix it so I couldn’t get my money back! Subsequently, PayPal emailed me with a refusal to refund my payment without even asking me my side of the story! When I emailed them with the particulars they said they already decided my case and they didn’t need to hear from me! Left wing wacko’s they are. I will never do business with them again but it makes it a little more difficult to purchase stuff on the internet.
The lesson I learned is: NEVER do business through PayPal!
gin, seems like there are a lot of stories like yours
Now die off ISISraeli Jew rat and burn in hell for attacking Islam everyday. Go die off now ugly hooked nose demon k1ke and your cult followers also
Que?
Oh, look! That shit-eating cockroaches have crawled out of their dung heaps…How nice…
@NukeISISraHell
Here mate … have a bacon sarnie on me – no charge 🙂
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Full of pig product meaty goodness … Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
LOL glad to see attacking filthy pisslam everyday upsets you LOL thats made my day LOL. Think Ill go wipe my butt with pages from your cr@p book of trash …
Thomas Newton, Bishop of Bristol (1704-1782):
“The preservation of the Jews is really one of the most single and illustrious acts of divine Providence…
and what but a supernatural power could have preserved them in such a manner as none other nation upon earth hath been preserved. Nor is the providence of God less remarkable in the destruction of their enemies, than in their preservation…
We see that the great empires, which in their turn subdued and oppressed the people of God, are all come to ruin…
And if such hath been the fatal end of the enemies and oppressors of the Jews, let it serve as a warning to all those, who at any time or upon any occasion are for raising a clamor and persecution against them.”
The mere existence of the nation of Israel is proof positive that HaShem not only “exists” but that He RULES ETERNAL.
May G-d help those who try to divide Israel – curses be upon them and their nations and peoples, as well!
What I like about this moron is his “user name”. This fuck actually seriously thinks if Israel will be obliterated there will be peace on Earth.
He is too stupid to realize that that would only be one tiny step in the grand scheme of world wide jihad.
He is also too stupid to realize that his fucked up fellow muslims started every war between Israel and the Arabs.
They started to murder Jews in the British Mandate in 1921 for no other reason than pure hatred of everyone who is not muslim.
And I am pretty sure this inbred fuck thinks with his damaged brain that the people who defend themselves from the relentless attacks of muslims are the bad guys.
Good example why inbreeding is dangerous.
Good finally now go kill yourself filthy ugly hooked nose ISISraeli Satanic worshipping K1K3 Attack Islam and you can burn in hell filthy terrorist k1ke
Are you telling Miss BNI to kill herself? If you hate Jews so much, move to S. Arabia, no Jews there. Legally, you can have sex with pre-pubescent children there, and animals too. Just like your “prophet”, Momo.
Que?
You accuse INNOCENTS of what you are Guilty of. Jews and Christians worship the HOLY ONE, the One True God who dwells in Unapproachable Light. Our Wonderful God who is PURE, HOLY and ABSOLUTELY GOOD.
The CRUEL god of WARLORD Mohammad is the Complete Opposite of the HOLY ONE, the Awesome, Magnificent, Glorious Creator of the Universe.
On Judgement Day, you will stand before the Just Judge, the HOLY ONE, and tremble greatly. It will be too late to repent on that day…
SATAN: FACT OR FICTION ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT
I don’t think this is personal against BNI. The NWO folks are targeting all sites and channels that tell the truth, otherwise known as hate speech/fake news. Conservative youtube channels, including Alex Jones’, have been de-monetized so they will cease to exist. Many youtubers are asking for donations from subscribers to stay afloat. They ask followers to use Patreon.
I can’t avoid paypal, as many ebay sellers will only accept paypal for payment. But I will stop using it for purchasing from online merchants and catalogs. I will just type in my cc info instead of one click for paypal.
Please consider using venmo!
Can you send me a link?
Venmo is a mobile payment service owned by PayPal.
8 Paypal alternatives …
https://www.sitepoint.com/8-paypal-alternatives/
Many more out there!
Why would I get anything “owned by Paypal?”
Thanks for the list. Google sounds easy and inexpensive but I am afraid they might have a problem with BNI.
Venmo is owned by paypal. I think there are some banks who now have something similar to paypal. Guess you can search for paypal alternatives.
Grrrr. So sorry to hear what’s happened. I saw a quote, “Hate is a side effect of impact.” Keep fighting them, stay on them and don’t let up. We ALL know the benefit of this awesome site and the IMPACT you make. Keep us posted.
Thanks Jeanne
You CANNOT be compelled to sign away a civil or constitutional right, and as such any part of an agreement or contract that attempts to infringe upon your civil or Constitutional rights is UN ENFORCEABLE and is AUTOMATICALLY NEGATED. I would NOT participate in a class action law suit, but would instead hire an attorney to sue them separately. Also, any monies held in such a manner, must be: 1) held in a SEPARATE interest-bearing account, 2) must be paid back with full accrued interest, 3) Must be paid back within 30 days of demand, unless you signed a contract that CLEARLY states “up to six months”.. By their holding your money like this, they are generating interest at your expense, which is a Federal violation of Banking Laws.
Thanks Dave, I will be talking with a lawyer.
Any conservative nowadays need know not to rely on anything coming out of Palo Alto.
Slimy, cowardly, underhanded b*****ds. Of course this is because BNI tells the truth about PISSlam. And yes, they did the same thing to the excellent David Seaman, so it’s encouraging that he got his $ back. Here’s one of his posts on that.
https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/821751080551927809?lang=en
I smell the s**t-stained left hands of CAIR in this. Said it before, will keep saying it until it happens: OUTLAW THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD and all the fleas like CAIR that infest its carcass. They are eating us alive.
Someone already posted this to my email discussion group, and we will pass it along. I’ve got a tiny PayPal account but switching is going to be a royal pain. Appreciate any suggestions. Bonni, I will send a donation soon as your new PO box/service/whatever is up.
Thanks RRA.