Shamima Begum’s fight to return to UK is ‘nowhere near over’ say ISIS bride’s lawyers who vow challenge after she lost legal battle against removal of her British citizenship.
Daily Mail The jihadi bride was 15 when she and two other east London schoolgirls fled to join ISIS in February 2015, with Ms Begum marrying a 23-year-old ISIS fighter ten days after arriving in Syria. Her British citizenship was revoked on national security grounds by the former home secretary Sajid Javid shortly after she was found, nine months pregnant, in a Syrian refugee camp in February 2019.
Ms Begum, now 23, brought a challenge against the Home Office at the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC), where her lawyers argued she should be allowed to return to Britain on the basis she was ‘a victim of child sex trafficking’.
However, the Home Office defended the decision by saying the security services ‘continue to assess’ that she poses a risk to the UK. Judges dismissed Ms Begum’s challenge today, ruling that while there was a ‘suspicion’ that Ms Begum was trafficked to Syria for ‘sexual exploitation’ this was not enough for her appeal to succeed.
Sajid Javid, who was Home Secretary when Shamima Begum was first stripped of her British citizenship, welcomed today’s decision
The judgment read: ‘In September and November 2021, Ms Begum was interviewed by Good Morning Britain and Sky News. She denied reports in the media that she had sewn suicide vests or been part of ISIL’s [ISIS’s] morality police and claimed that her activities were limited to being a housewife and mother.
‘The MI5 assessment is that many of the comments Ms Begum made in her later interviews are likely to have been self-serving and an attempt to obtain favourable media coverage in the run-up to this appeal.’
Daniel Erbstoesser says
Shit ,i would gladly give it to her and after giving it i put her ass up in front of a military court and then the wall. That is how you handle scum like this…you eliminate it and its over or else you will see it again and again.
Me 'At The Burning Mosque' says
Cut out the middle-man and just introduce her to the business end of an AK-47
Hartmut says
Good for the UK. I wish they would implement same measures here.
But we are told there exists no right to strip someone’s citizenship if he/she ends up without any afterwards. What a bulls**t.
BareNakedIslam says
There is one American Muslim who joined ISIS and wants to come back, but even Biden won’t let her. I understand her sister and brother were arrested on terror charges.
Hartmut says
Interestingly the Trump administration requested the Europeans to take their trash back in. Utter bigotry.
But seriously our administration is really taking all the trash back in, no way they ever consider stripping them from citizenship.
Daniel Erbstoesser says
Jo Hartmut he didnt have to ask germany to take them back because germanys left and green done rolled out the we have to take them back whinny program,and the we have a responsibility because of the war and we are all raccists and nazis, and the outcome is yes we have taken back hundreds and we have many walking free here in the best and biggest shithole (germany) in the world.
Pray Hard says
I’m sure JoeBama will be happy to give her American citizenship.
sixlittlerabbits says
Thank God, Shamima’s too stupid to ask. That other Jihadi wife POS Hoda Muthana has not been let back into the US, even under Sleepy, Creepy, Lyin’ Biden. Meanwhile her sis and brother-in-law, who are in the US, have been arrested for terrorism.
Az gal says
I’m surprised the UK is not allowing this Muslum back. It would be a simple matter for her to enter the UK illegally, which I think she eventually will. But I guess to get out of the ISIS camp, she needs a country to take her. An option for her is her husbands country of Netherlands (I think).
sixlittlerabbits says
She is in a prison camp in Syria, being policed by the Kurds. Fortunately, it does not have an open door policy. The Kurds should hold trials and proceed to executions. Then the problem would be solved for these jihadi wives.
Az gal says
Agreed. Or, just bring Ebola in
Ghulam says
I think Shamima’s juat like Dr. Mann from Interstellar.
– Dr. Mann *Stabs Cooper
I’m watching a lot of sci-fi stuff, of late.
Ghulam says
Shamima should go back to Bangladesh.
It’s a much safer place compared to Iraq and Syria. And she’ll be surrounded by her own kind.
I read about those Mirpuri rapists in UK who fled back to Pakistan after their DNA was all over the place once after vandalizing their victims.
Now those scum are under the protection of a local “wali” (tribal chieftain in Pakistan) and have access to SUVs and assault rifles. It’s like they didn’t face any consequences for their crime at all.
I don’t see the point of clinging on to UK welfare benefits if it means many years of prison time.
All good things come to an end. Smart criminals and terrorists should see the expiry and find a new welfare tap.
Shamima’s plain bonkers for wanting to return to the UK.
Az gal says
Most people would rather live in a prison in the West than live free in a country such as Bangladesh. Little Miss ISIS would probably face execution in Bangladesh, anyway.
Ghulam says
Shamima is really better off in Bangladesh or some other Muslim country. She’s lucky to be alive and not under arrest.
If I were in her shoes, I’d change my identity and disappear.
I lived in the UK for over 10 years, even created two children there. It’s a fabulous place to live, no doubt. And I like English mannerisms.
But I couldn’t make it there. So I left. Simple choice — I see no point in waiting for years.
sixlittlerabbits says
I disagree that Shamima would be better off in Bangladesh. Justice is involved as jihadi wives bullied other women and children when ISIS was in power. They didn’t want to go “home” until ISIS fell, and they and their children were starving and eating grass.
Ghulam, where did you go when you left the UK?
Ghulam says
6 Rabbits
I left the UK somewhere around 2008, when BoJo (Boris Johnson) became Mayor of London.
I spent a few years in UAE and Oman as my daughters were relatively young. Then I came to Singapore and I am based here all these years. I also got separated from my first wife, and married again.
I live in S’pore with the kids born of my second wife.
Me 'At The Burning Mosque' says
Bangladesh does not want her either.
Shamima Begum is not a Bangladeshi citizen and there is “no question” of her being allowed into the country, Bangladesh’s ministry of foreign affairs has said.
sixlittlerabbits says
Great news. Now that her appeal has been lost, I hope that if she tries to reappeal, the authorities will refuse to hear her case a THIRD time. We live in hope.
Dan says
Aaaaand now on too higher courts,
Including the ‘European Court of justice’ It’s the human rights lawyers. 😭.
I travelled too see my old father yesterday, cleaned his car inside and out, strimmed and mowed his garden. He’s old now 😔 But his years have brought him wisdom. I’ve almost nearly a few times ruined my life with this stuff.
When I was arrested it kicked off a massive domino effect which still feeel today (my daughters school) still ostracises me. Leabians who’ve read about raising kids Teling me what too do
I have one son who’s 19 and 3 girls at 12, 11 and 5 and I’m hurt, sad, depressed, lost, heartbroken,confused, angry, angry, majorly FUCKInG angry. I’m screaming in my head.
I’ve known or been doing this for to long and it takes its toll.
BNI I’m sure you’re aware, it grinds you down
Have I gone full circle? We ain’t gonna win! I’m just dying to fight. With honour.
I see no ‘honour” anymore
Peace to you all, 🙏
BareNakedIslam says
I hear ya, Dan. I’ve begun thinking that it’s very good not to be young anymore. Am glad I decided not to have kids.
Dan says
The lesbians are working at my two youngest daughters school. ‘well being councillors’ or something. One of them took a very patronising tone with me thr other day.
Asked me if I’ve ever used the “naughty step” she’s about 21-22 and a militan lesbian. In positions of power. I have to toe thr line with them or else!. They could take my kids.
BareNakedIslam says
“Naughty step?”
Dan says
My 11 year old daughter is very difficult in the mornings, often she makes us late for school and my 5 year old is at the same school. I’d rung the school to let them know we were going to be 10 or 15 minutes late because my 11 year old insisted on washing her hair first. The stupid woman then asked me if I’d ever implemented the ‘naughty step’ 😂😂 basically telling me too sit my 11 year old on the stairs step for 10mins time out😂.
They are crawling all over me because I’ve recently been arrested from my house. In the UK if you get arrested at home and your children are present social services get involved and contact the school to notify them. They’ve even let slip in my appointments with them that they have my medical records and everything.
Taking my kids out of class to see if they’d like to talk about ‘home life’ it’s quite worrying. Even the social worker assigned to us is a 21 year old blue haired idiot. I have to keep in line with them though because they could ruin me. Its absolutely infuriating.
My wife is NOT happy with me😂
BareNakedIslam says
Unbelievable! It’s like living in a horror movie. 😒
Ghulam says
Western values. A dad can’t even raise his children freely anymore.
He’s probably going to envy me. I have absolute authority over my children.
Jerven says
One ‘tip’ (from bitter experience) record (preferably video) ‘every’ contact and conversation with them. They ‘will’ misquote, misrepresent and outright lie about what you have said. Fact!
‘If’ you can, arrange for an independent witness too (they are required to both allow, and even offer to arrange one, but they’ll never tell you that).
Accept the fact that they are not even vaguely impartial, are completely uninterested in your children’s wishes or best interests, their entire priority is ‘sticking it to a/any man’. They will literally do anything to achieve that aim. Act accordingly.
Ghulam says
White people’s problems, man. I’m not interested.
😀
I’m a Muslim. We beat our kids when they get out of line.
On a serious note, though, I greatly feel for Dan and empathize with his troubles.
No dad should have to go through what he is.
Ghulam says
Dan
I feel bad for you. If your kids love you, there is nothing to prove to anyone.
Everyone who’s worth anything gets arrested or has had a brush with the law. I don’t see it as a big deal.
You mean to say your work mates ostracise you? Screw them.
And taking parental advice from lesbians . You must be out of your effing mind.
sixlittlerabbits says
You’ve misunderstood Dan. He is complaining that these lesbians have power over him and his children and cause them lots of trouble. He is not meekly “taking parental advice.”
Daniel Erbstoesser says
Hey Gulam wich islam do you follow. The first writting or the second or the hadither (cant write it right). I have few friends that practice the first writting and only that. The first writting is the pure religion and the rest is the hate from mohamet against the jewish leaders that told him to get lost and the world, that mohamet was a waylager (highway robber) have all forgotten or that he likes young wives, , or am i wrong here. I wonder because sometimes i read things that you write that are not muslim at all.
Ghulam says
I tend to follow only the first writing, the original revelation of Holy Quran. I’m not a LITERALIST though; my intention is merely to follow the principles outlined in our holy book.
So if there are any objectionable phrases in Quran (according to BNI). That doesn’t matter- I can bring up as many objectionable phrases in Bible or the Hindu scriptures.
The Hadith are for reference only (it’s ok if you can’t spell it).
Nowadays many Muslims are trying to break free of the clerics’ domination, and have more independent thoughts. But that’s not the norm.
Most Muslims only follow what their local clerics tell them. They can’t be bothered to read their scripture, and don’t believe in applying their independent minds.
Muslims like me risk being declared HERETICS for questioning any of the rules.
I don’t consider anything binding on me, that is why I count among the secular Muslims.
I don’t mind it at all. I can withstand the criticism of Islam> I don’t feel insulted if the Holy Book gets burned by non-Muslims.
But some other Muslims will BEHEAD you for much less. We have a huge population of ignorant morons, and even I am scared of them at times.
I am a Muslim only because it’s my CULTURE and IDENTITY. Just the way I was raised.
BareNakedIslam says
Ghulam, I learned that the original quran (known as Mecca) was mostly about peace with many ideas adopted for the Old Testament, but that several “abrogated” verses were added when Mohammed went to Medina and faced opposition. Islam critics claim that the peaceful Mecca verses were replaced with the “violent” (calling for war) against the unbelievers Medina verses. Muslims say the war verses were added as guidance for defending themselves against non-Muslimss who attack them. Muslims seem to justify of killing unbelievers (even when not war-related) with these Medina verses. Can you explain?
Ghulam says
You got it accurately right. I’ll explain more with ful details when there is a relevant threat.
BareNakedIslam says
OK
Daniel Erbstoesser says
I see that you are one of these muslims that see the first writting as the right one (i see it that way too) and yes you would have a big problem in one of these countries were they make war only because one is a better muslim than the other. What Bonnie wrote is the thing i wanted to write but my english is rusty and i cant set some sentences as they should be set. The islam needs more people like you so that it can come to peace with itself and the rest of the world. I will fight the islam with all i have but i will also stand in front of every muslim like you. Sound crazy well it is but the world has gone crazy
Jerven says
Dan
The first thing you need to understand (from someone who’s been there, done that and gotten a wardrobe full of T-shirts) is … you aren’t alone.
I went through this years ago, before the current ‘awakening, and ‘knew’ I was completely on my own (career destroyed, ostracised and demonised, financially ruined to the extent I was left ‘living’ under a bridge in Britain’s worst winter for decades, had tens of thousands of debt ‘she’ had run up in my name after emptying the accounts, … all based on nothing more than lies and lesbian feminists in social services and the courts using her as means to destroy yet another easy target. The school demanded copies of court orders ordering access, then ‘lost’ them four times, whilst covering up her turning up drunk/high to collect my son, etc.). [Throw in strip-searched and grilled by police after her ‘new/last minute’ paed allegations, when all the old, violence, not enough money, etc., ones were proven lies, and when those were proven “completely false and purely malicious” too … she was excused as having been “distraught” because I wanted contact with my son. I never even got an apology. Family law – the only place men are guilty until they prove themselves innocent!].
Now? Look around you. Read the blogs and websites. There are so many other men who are going, and have been through, the same thing and … they’re all talking about it and very, very angry. Talk to other men in pubs and clubs and you’ll suddenly see there are more of ‘us’ out there than they want you to realise. (Oh, there are still plenty of delusional ‘white knights’ out there, but they’re the minority now, men have been red-pilled en masse).
You need to accept the simple fact that you (like me) ‘will’ probably never (be allowed to) see your children, and they’ll (most likely) be indoctrinated to hate you. They ‘may’ eventually realise the truth and come around, but you can’t count on, or even hope for that.
You also need to understand the motivation of women (your ex and all her support network of misandrist leeches). They need you to fail, to appear as if you cannot survive without them (they ‘will’ be overjoyed to gloat and celebrate at your suffering), they really do believe you must be made to see your life was only made worth living by them. The way to ‘win’ is to “live well” (the pinnacle for me was, ten years later, when my ex saw me, in a relationship, a new job, happy and her ‘face dropped’ as she realised I didn’t need or want her or even bother thinking about her, and wasn’t a wreck simply because she wanted me to be. It took twenty for my son to see the truth, but now he sees me, and avoids her like the plague she is).
You might be completely broken, but … don’t let ‘them’ see it. Pretty soon ‘the act’ becomes reality (and like I say, there are more of us out there than you’d believe, and we’re all on your side). It’s unfair, painful and wrong, that it takes so long, and sometimes doesn’t ever happen, that the truth comes out but … that’s reality, accept it and move on.
“Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.”
― Reinhold Niebuhr
Salvage what you can, fix what you can, walk away from what you can’t, because the alternative is to let them win (and to them ‘winning’ means destroying you).
sixlittlerabbits says
What a powerful response to Dan in the midst of his trials. Hoping it will work out for him as it did for you. (I have been wearing skirts and dresses for the last 25+ years because I do not want to be mistaken for a feminist fruit-loop.)
Daniel Erbstoesser says
Oh yeah i can sing the same song and yes we are millions strong.
Me 'At The Burning Mosque Playing With Matches' says
Home schooling Dan.
Take your kids out of the toxic environment they call “school” and bring them up properly. The school or the education authorities cannot stop you doing this, it is your right to home school should you decide to.
Do this quickly before the school employs that freak “rainbow dildo butt monkey” to dance around them and thus corrupting their moral compass for good!
For those who don’t know, here is “rainbow dildo butt monkey” as seen promoting literacy for kids outside Redbridge Library in East London, England in 2021 …
https://images2.imgbox.com/fe/28/7MK1wepQ_o.jpg
BareNakedIslam says
OMG, is that a penis hanging off him? How dare they?