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‘MICHIGANISTAN’ Islamic ‘scholar’ says there can be no permanent peace treaty between Muslims and Jews because it cancels out jihad
Islamic ‘scholar’ Ahmad Musa Jibril said that when the Muslims grow strong and feel it is beneficial, then they must inform the Jews that “this treaty has come to an end and there will be war until the death of every last one of them.”
FYI: Musa Jibril served six and a half years in prison for conspiracy, fraud, money laundering, and possession of firearms and ammunition. He is considered to be the inspiration for several Jihad attacks and initiatives in the West.
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Thomas Richardsays
Islam calls for the killing of Jews and Christians……..so how can there be peace until the war is over?
As if the carpet bombing of 2.3 million civilians wasn’t enough, as you’ve requested for evidence of Netanyahu/IDF’s atrocities against the Muslims in that area, I humbly submit the following information for your kindest considerations.
1. Interrogations – Many Muslims were killed during interrogations inside Israel. Most of them because they were denied medical treatment, but many have also been tortured to death (source: Haaretz).
Three months ago, a Haaretz editorial warned that Israeli jails “must not become execution facilities for Palestinians”.
Israeli TV channels have been excitedly taking viewers on tours of detention centers, showing the appalling conditions Muslims are kept in, as well as the psychological and physical abuse they are subjected to.
An Israeli judge recently called the makeshift cages in which Muslims are held “unsuitable for humans”.
2. Abuse and torture of women: – Presumably, Israel has wished to avoid undermining its careful messaging that only Hamas weaponizes violence against women. The fact is they do it too.
Muslim women and girls in detention were reportedly being subjected to “multiple forms of sexual assault, such as being stripped naked and searched by male Israeli army officers.
Soldiers are also believed to have taken photos of female detainees in degrading circumstances and then uploaded them online.
Muslim women and girls in Gaza are also reported by their families to have gone missing after contact with the Israeli army.
3. Beatings, Waterboarding – Muslim humanitarian workers in Gaza were snatched by Israel. They were then tortured to extract confessions, most likely false, of involvement in Hamas’ 7 October attack. Their torture included beatings, waterboarding and threats to family members.
Of the 1,000 detainees subsequently released, 29 were children, one as young as six, and 80 women. Some were reported to have cancer and chronic illnesses such as Alzheimer’s.
According to the investigation, Muslims reported severe punishment beatings, being caged with attack dogs, and suffering sexual assault. Physical evidence – such as broken ribs, dislocated shoulders, bite marks, and burns – was still visible many weeks later.
4. Israeli snipers killing medical staff – Israeli snipers have fired into Gaza’s hospitals, killing medical staff and patients there.
The Israeli military has used Palestinians as human shields, including one man sent into a hospital, his hands bound, to announce an Israeli order to evacuate the premises. Israeli forces executed him on his return.
5. Killing Muslims who’re trying to evacuate – Those Muslims trying to follow Israeli evacuation orders, waving white flags, have been shot at.
6. Neglecting the babies at hospitals under siege – Those vulnerable Muslims who could not be evacuated, such as premature babies, have been left to die unattended, even while Israeli soldiers were occupying the building.
That’s such a callous disregard to human life, so un-Jewish like.
7. Torturing medics – This is a clear violation of Geneva Conventions. You’re not allowed to touch the medics attending to patients.
Muslims medical staff have reported being tortured, savagely beaten and having attack dogs set on them inside the Nasser hospital in Khan Younis after Israeli soldiers stormed it.
One, Dr Ahmed Abu Sabha, had his hands broken. He told: “They put me on a chair and it was like a gallows. I heard sounds of ropes, so I thought I was going to be executed.”
Muslim medic detainees were stripped naked and beaten in the back of a truck, while only in their underwear. They were taken to a gravel pit, where they were made to kneel blindfolded. They believed they were about to be executed.
8. Other examples of murderous cruelty are documented daily. Unarmed Palestinians, including those waving white flags, have been shot dead by Israeli soldiers. Palestinian parents have been executed in cold blood in front of their children. There have been repeated episodes of Israeli forces gunning down en masse desperate Palestinians trying to reach aid, as happened yet again this week.
Even Israeli hostages trying to escape their captors have been killed by the very Israeli soldiers they were trying to surrender to. Clearly these are a blood-thirsty mob, not regular soldiers of a disciplined army.
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I have offered you just a very small SAMPLE of what Netanyahu’s IDF thugs are doing in Gaza. If you want more examples, let me know. We have access to LIVE footage, videos, and much more accurate information.
You can Google search for any/all information online.
Out of the 100,000 or so people dead or injured so far, 70% are non-combatants: women, children, the elderly.
100,000 Muslims have been killed or severely injured since
Self-hating Jews or not, they’re documenting all the evidence of IDF’s atrocities against Muslims non-combatants.
They’re not the only ones on ground.
I only replied to your requests for evidence. There are actual videos of the IDF thugs going about their business, of wanton killings and savage murders. The Internet is saturated with that kind of footage.
They’re certainly not fighting a just war.
Netanyahu is a WAR CRIMINAL and he deserves a Nuremburg trial immediately. Sending him to the gallows is the only humane solution to the Gaza crisis.
Show me the footage and make sure the IDF uniforms are clearly visible, otherwise I will know it’s Hamas doing it to their own people for whom they have no regard. It is Hamas tthat is starving them, not Israel. You can post several links if you want.
The problem with Ghulam’s litany of atrocities is that such atrocities are perfectly in character with 1400 years of Muslim conduct, as commanded by Allah and celebrated by Muslims, and not conduct associated with or condoned by Jews. Furthermore, we can never believe Muslims because they are obligated to lie to us in pursuit of obligatory Islamic goals, eg jihad until the world is ruled by Islam. See The Reliance of the Traveller — that’s how it’s spelled — page 745, r8.2. War is deceit, don’t cha know.
Guhlam war is war and there are no rules then to fight for your nation and life. the rules make the ones who know nothing of war and they think that war is a 8 hour job. The tortur is a important part of war then how will you know the truth and to walk into an ambush is not funny. Both sides tortur and kill but it was the hamasses who started this and its the <IDF that will finish it and that with the right to torture and kill. The ones shooting the ones leaving gaza was the hamass and nobody else just as the trucks with food came the hamasses shot into the crowd and the IDF soldiers defended themselves and the truck (that was the mission). No Guhlam war is bad for all mankind but sometimes it must be done and the doing is all but nice and conform.
Ghulam is a rabid Islamist. And what do you do with animals infected by rabies? Of course you euthanise them.
You should really ban this vile, hateful Muslim poster who’s filled with hatred not only against the Jews but every other non-Islamic religion.
You may not have followed entirely the gist of the vile things he said to me on Hinduism, and I don’t want to repeat them either. It’s very upsetting the way this man thinks.
Don’t fall for his pretence as if he gives a care in the world about Judaism.
Everything he says is true. It’s all in the Koran. Essentially, get along with the infidels when they are stronger and outnumber you, but when you are stronger and outnumber the infidels go to war and institute Sharia law.
The Muslims are allowed to make treaties for up to 10 years if they are in a weak position. But as soon as they get strong enough to fight, the treaty is over. With this information readily available on the Internet, all should be able to see through their ruse. Unfortunately, it is only Israel that sees the need to finish the job and enter Raffa to destroy Hamas once and for all.
I have said it before and I’m going to say it once more.
Ghulam has the fondest respect for Judaism and that will not change no matter how ugly our discourse becomes. I totally disagree with the views of this Michigan mufti, and other fellows like him.
However, you have to understand the context of his sentences. My stance remains unwavering, regardless of how acrimonious our conversations become. I strongly dissent from the perspectives expressed by this Islamic individual from Michigan and others who share similar sentiments.
However, it is essential to grasp the context within which these statements are made. When he refers to “all Jews,” he is truly addressing those who endorse such reckless acts of violence and devastation against Palestinian children, without a sense of objectivity and comprehension of how gross these crimes are.
There are Muslims like me who will unequivocally condemn the Hamas atrocities of October 7. It was a barbaric event and the appalling way in which some of those crimes unfolded makes me hang my head in shame as a human being, but most importantly, as a Muslim.
Let’s hear it out from the right-thinking Jews and Christians what do you have to say about the indiscriminate murders and mayhem unleashed by Benjamin Netanyahu on unsuspecting new-born babies. Please help me understand what makes you give Netanyahu and his IDF goons a free pass for his horrific crimes.
Are Palestinian babies being tortured and shot to death in their beds like Israelis were? Or are they collateral damage from residing in residences where Hamas is hiding?
Are the Jews lining up Gazan children in front of their parents -or vice versa- and executing them? Are the Jews gauging out eyes and beheading Gazan children and/or tossing same into burning ovens? Are the Jews savagely mutilating and burning alive Gazans? Are the Jews gang raping Gazans and sadistically hacking off breasts and genitalia?
I’m waiting for your presentation of examples of such unspeakable atrocities committed by Jews.
The problem is that there are such Imams preaching war, death and destruction, and each has a large following. If the Muslims were ALL Ghulams, I don’t think there would be a problem. There must be some righteous Gazans that would sell out Hamas and their operatives to the IDF by providing intelligence, but if there are, we will not hear about it. In any event, war is Hell !!! (William Tecumseh Sherman, an American Civil War general that burned his way through the South).
So, I blame Hamas and its October 7, 2024 aggression. Only Hamas is stupid enough to poke the hornet’s nest and expect not to be stung to death.
Someone’s a scholar who’s filled with eternal anger and hate for, and with the “holy” plans and determination to conquer and kill all who are not “believers”?
Thomas Richard says
Islam calls for the killing of Jews and Christians……..so how can there be peace until the war is over?
Rebel Patriot says
ISIL/ISIS in addition to Hamas is a perfect example of what Islam is.
Ghulam says
Replying to Bonnie and Smooth Lee
As if the carpet bombing of 2.3 million civilians wasn’t enough, as you’ve requested for evidence of Netanyahu/IDF’s atrocities against the Muslims in that area, I humbly submit the following information for your kindest considerations.
1. Interrogations – Many Muslims were killed during interrogations inside Israel. Most of them because they were denied medical treatment, but many have also been tortured to death (source: Haaretz).
Three months ago, a Haaretz editorial warned that Israeli jails “must not become execution facilities for Palestinians”.
Israeli TV channels have been excitedly taking viewers on tours of detention centers, showing the appalling conditions Muslims are kept in, as well as the psychological and physical abuse they are subjected to.
An Israeli judge recently called the makeshift cages in which Muslims are held “unsuitable for humans”.
2. Abuse and torture of women: – Presumably, Israel has wished to avoid undermining its careful messaging that only Hamas weaponizes violence against women. The fact is they do it too.
Muslim women and girls in detention were reportedly being subjected to “multiple forms of sexual assault, such as being stripped naked and searched by male Israeli army officers.
Soldiers are also believed to have taken photos of female detainees in degrading circumstances and then uploaded them online.
Muslim women and girls in Gaza are also reported by their families to have gone missing after contact with the Israeli army.
3. Beatings, Waterboarding – Muslim humanitarian workers in Gaza were snatched by Israel. They were then tortured to extract confessions, most likely false, of involvement in Hamas’ 7 October attack. Their torture included beatings, waterboarding and threats to family members.
Of the 1,000 detainees subsequently released, 29 were children, one as young as six, and 80 women. Some were reported to have cancer and chronic illnesses such as Alzheimer’s.
According to the investigation, Muslims reported severe punishment beatings, being caged with attack dogs, and suffering sexual assault. Physical evidence – such as broken ribs, dislocated shoulders, bite marks, and burns – was still visible many weeks later.
4. Israeli snipers killing medical staff – Israeli snipers have fired into Gaza’s hospitals, killing medical staff and patients there.
The Israeli military has used Palestinians as human shields, including one man sent into a hospital, his hands bound, to announce an Israeli order to evacuate the premises. Israeli forces executed him on his return.
5. Killing Muslims who’re trying to evacuate – Those Muslims trying to follow Israeli evacuation orders, waving white flags, have been shot at.
6. Neglecting the babies at hospitals under siege – Those vulnerable Muslims who could not be evacuated, such as premature babies, have been left to die unattended, even while Israeli soldiers were occupying the building.
That’s such a callous disregard to human life, so un-Jewish like.
7. Torturing medics – This is a clear violation of Geneva Conventions. You’re not allowed to touch the medics attending to patients.
Muslims medical staff have reported being tortured, savagely beaten and having attack dogs set on them inside the Nasser hospital in Khan Younis after Israeli soldiers stormed it.
One, Dr Ahmed Abu Sabha, had his hands broken. He told: “They put me on a chair and it was like a gallows. I heard sounds of ropes, so I thought I was going to be executed.”
Muslim medic detainees were stripped naked and beaten in the back of a truck, while only in their underwear. They were taken to a gravel pit, where they were made to kneel blindfolded. They believed they were about to be executed.
8. Other examples of murderous cruelty are documented daily. Unarmed Palestinians, including those waving white flags, have been shot dead by Israeli soldiers. Palestinian parents have been executed in cold blood in front of their children. There have been repeated episodes of Israeli forces gunning down en masse desperate Palestinians trying to reach aid, as happened yet again this week.
Even Israeli hostages trying to escape their captors have been killed by the very Israeli soldiers they were trying to surrender to. Clearly these are a blood-thirsty mob, not regular soldiers of a disciplined army.
—
I have offered you just a very small SAMPLE of what Netanyahu’s IDF thugs are doing in Gaza. If you want more examples, let me know. We have access to LIVE footage, videos, and much more accurate information.
You can Google search for any/all information online.
Out of the 100,000 or so people dead or injured so far, 70% are non-combatants: women, children, the elderly.
100,000 Muslims have been killed or severely injured since
BareNakedIslam says
Haaretz is known as the Al Jazeera of Israel, run by far left self hating Jews.
Ghulam says
Self-hating Jews or not, they’re documenting all the evidence of IDF’s atrocities against Muslims non-combatants.
They’re not the only ones on ground.
I only replied to your requests for evidence. There are actual videos of the IDF thugs going about their business, of wanton killings and savage murders. The Internet is saturated with that kind of footage.
They’re certainly not fighting a just war.
Netanyahu is a WAR CRIMINAL and he deserves a Nuremburg trial immediately. Sending him to the gallows is the only humane solution to the Gaza crisis.
BareNakedIslam says
Show me the footage and make sure the IDF uniforms are clearly visible, otherwise I will know it’s Hamas doing it to their own people for whom they have no regard. It is Hamas tthat is starving them, not Israel. You can post several links if you want.
petervburrows says
The problem with Ghulam’s litany of atrocities is that such atrocities are perfectly in character with 1400 years of Muslim conduct, as commanded by Allah and celebrated by Muslims, and not conduct associated with or condoned by Jews. Furthermore, we can never believe Muslims because they are obligated to lie to us in pursuit of obligatory Islamic goals, eg jihad until the world is ruled by Islam. See The Reliance of the Traveller — that’s how it’s spelled — page 745, r8.2. War is deceit, don’t cha know.
BareNakedIslam says
I know they are. It’s even in their holy books where it says its fine to deceive infidels as long as it will advance Islam.
Daniel Erbstoesser says
Bingo there lies the answer to all our questions.
Daniel Erbstoesser says
Guhlam war is war and there are no rules then to fight for your nation and life. the rules make the ones who know nothing of war and they think that war is a 8 hour job. The tortur is a important part of war then how will you know the truth and to walk into an ambush is not funny. Both sides tortur and kill but it was the hamasses who started this and its the <IDF that will finish it and that with the right to torture and kill. The ones shooting the ones leaving gaza was the hamass and nobody else just as the trucks with food came the hamasses shot into the crowd and the IDF soldiers defended themselves and the truck (that was the mission). No Guhlam war is bad for all mankind but sometimes it must be done and the doing is all but nice and conform.
Steve says
Ghulam is a rabid Islamist. And what do you do with animals infected by rabies? Of course you euthanise them.
You should really ban this vile, hateful Muslim poster who’s filled with hatred not only against the Jews but every other non-Islamic religion.
You may not have followed entirely the gist of the vile things he said to me on Hinduism, and I don’t want to repeat them either. It’s very upsetting the way this man thinks.
Don’t fall for his pretence as if he gives a care in the world about Judaism.
BareNakedIslam says
I understand exactly what he was saying about Hindus. It isn’t the first time he slammed Hindus here.
John1 says
Everything he says is true. It’s all in the Koran. Essentially, get along with the infidels when they are stronger and outnumber you, but when you are stronger and outnumber the infidels go to war and institute Sharia law.
Taffy says
The Muslims are allowed to make treaties for up to 10 years if they are in a weak position. But as soon as they get strong enough to fight, the treaty is over. With this information readily available on the Internet, all should be able to see through their ruse. Unfortunately, it is only Israel that sees the need to finish the job and enter Raffa to destroy Hamas once and for all.
Reader says
So much for diversity being enriching.
Let the deportations begin!
Ghulam says
I have said it before and I’m going to say it once more.
Ghulam has the fondest respect for Judaism and that will not change no matter how ugly our discourse becomes. I totally disagree with the views of this Michigan mufti, and other fellows like him.
However, you have to understand the context of his sentences. My stance remains unwavering, regardless of how acrimonious our conversations become. I strongly dissent from the perspectives expressed by this Islamic individual from Michigan and others who share similar sentiments.
However, it is essential to grasp the context within which these statements are made. When he refers to “all Jews,” he is truly addressing those who endorse such reckless acts of violence and devastation against Palestinian children, without a sense of objectivity and comprehension of how gross these crimes are.
There are Muslims like me who will unequivocally condemn the Hamas atrocities of October 7. It was a barbaric event and the appalling way in which some of those crimes unfolded makes me hang my head in shame as a human being, but most importantly, as a Muslim.
Let’s hear it out from the right-thinking Jews and Christians what do you have to say about the indiscriminate murders and mayhem unleashed by Benjamin Netanyahu on unsuspecting new-born babies. Please help me understand what makes you give Netanyahu and his IDF goons a free pass for his horrific crimes.
BareNakedIslam says
Are Palestinian babies being tortured and shot to death in their beds like Israelis were? Or are they collateral damage from residing in residences where Hamas is hiding?
petervburrows says
What you are telling us is that there are Muslims like you who haven’t read the Quran. Being a Muslim should make you hang your head in shame.
Smooth Lee says
Are the Jews lining up Gazan children in front of their parents -or vice versa- and executing them? Are the Jews gauging out eyes and beheading Gazan children and/or tossing same into burning ovens? Are the Jews savagely mutilating and burning alive Gazans? Are the Jews gang raping Gazans and sadistically hacking off breasts and genitalia?
I’m waiting for your presentation of examples of such unspeakable atrocities committed by Jews.
Taffy says
The problem is that there are such Imams preaching war, death and destruction, and each has a large following. If the Muslims were ALL Ghulams, I don’t think there would be a problem. There must be some righteous Gazans that would sell out Hamas and their operatives to the IDF by providing intelligence, but if there are, we will not hear about it. In any event, war is Hell !!! (William Tecumseh Sherman, an American Civil War general that burned his way through the South).
So, I blame Hamas and its October 7, 2024 aggression. Only Hamas is stupid enough to poke the hornet’s nest and expect not to be stung to death.
Smooth Lee says
Someone’s a scholar who’s filled with eternal anger and hate for, and with the “holy” plans and determination to conquer and kill all who are not “believers”?
BLR says
good to know ! sooner they get off their ass and get started the sooner we can get rid of them something to look forward to